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The Epstein Incident Another Blow to Government and Media Credibility
American Thinker.com ^ | August 19, 2019 | John Dietrich

Posted on 08/19/2019 6:28:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

A very small number of people know exactly what happened to Jeffrey Epstein on the morning of August 10. The rest of us only know what the government and media tell us. These two are sources of increasingly dubious credibility. When their accounts don't agree, or don't make sense, "conspiracy" theories flourish. "Conspiracy theorists" are routinely dismissed as being on the fringes of society. However, in this case it will be difficult to dismiss the large number of well-respected individuals on the left and right who find the official account unbelievable.

Everything the government did with Epstein from his arrested on July 7 to his apparent suicide on August 10 was a predictable hurtle to disaster. Epstein was initially placed in a cell with a former police officer charged with murdering four people who was facing the death penalty. On July 24, he was found on the floor of his cell “semi-conscious, despondent and crying with slight bruising around his neck.” It was not clear whether his injuries were self-inflicted or the result of an assault. Nevertheless, Epstein was placed on placed on suicide watch. He was taken off suicide watch on July 29 or August 1 after a psychiatric evaluation. Bloomberg reported Epstein “was taken off suicide watch just hours before he killed himself.” He was back in the Special Housing Unit (SHU) with a cellmate. The cellmate was removed in during the evening of August 9, leaving Epstein alone.

Although Epstein was no longer on suicide watch, he was supposed to be checked on every 30 minutes. Reportedly, this was not done. The New York Post reported neither of the two guards “had checked on Epstein for several hours before he was discovered.”

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1 posted on 08/19/2019 6:28:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The same government who will decide who lives and who dies when they have control of the healthcare system.


2 posted on 08/19/2019 6:30:02 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: Kaslin

Credibility?

It’s worse than that.

They don’t care that we know that they lie and cheat and steal anymore.

In fact, one FReeper said it was also a message of what could happen to you if you get in their way.


3 posted on 08/19/2019 6:32:36 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: Kaslin

The government is inept, and yet is the largest employer, doesn’t make any sense.


4 posted on 08/19/2019 6:34:12 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: dp0622

And that FReeper was correct.


5 posted on 08/19/2019 6:40:38 AM PDT by sport
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To: Old Yeller
Your point is well taken, yet leftist disciples of The Frankfurt School win whether one concludes that the institution is corrupt or that we need more government to correct the failing.

The oxymoron never deters the left and rarely are they exposed for the double minded people they are.


6 posted on 08/19/2019 6:40:59 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: All

I can honestly say I have not talked to a person who believes that he wasn’t murdered (on either side of the political spectrum)


7 posted on 08/19/2019 6:42:49 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Assange)
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To: 1Old Pro

I find it amusing that so many black radicals moan about the ‘lie’ of 40 acres and a mule. It was essentially a rural myth that spread because it was simple and so appealing.

I submit that hundreds of thousands of government jobs are the real manifestation of 40 acres and a mule. Building after building filled with bureaucrats who lack any marketable skills. Agencies top-heavy with so-called minorities. They order supplies. They send emails. They shuffle papers. They answer phones. They achieve nothing but they manage to get their budgets increased every year.


8 posted on 08/19/2019 6:46:32 AM PDT by relictele
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FTA:

Every effort is being made to limit the amount of information that goes public. A representative for the Bureau of Prisons announced that warden Lamine N'Diaye would not be made available for comment. There is an almost total lack of information on N'Diaye on the Internet. Following Epstein's death, MCC cancelled all visits, both family and legal ones, with prisoners. Investigators "are being stymied" by employees who are understandably "lawyering up." There may be, in spite of the fact that they work for the federal government, serious repercussions if they falsified records of their mandatory checks on the prisoner.

Of all the things that grind me about this "investigation," the worse is the total unavailability of information about Lamine N'Diaye, the apparent warden at the time of the "suicide." Googling for that name at first only produced the name of a Senegalese soccer coach. Even now we know nearly nothing about this individual, including his/her/its sex, let alone more important things like a picture, a CV, and an appointment announcement. When an individual gets appointed to an important position, liked warden of a major correctional facility, an appointment announcement is always issued, at least internally.

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON??? If the "suicide" tale were true there would vastly more information, including full press availability for Mr/Ms/Zit N'Diaye.

9 posted on 08/19/2019 6:50:59 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Old Yeller

The same government that wants to take our guns away and let THEM protect us.


10 posted on 08/19/2019 6:52:39 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Kaslin

Well, what are we going to do about it?

1. Continue to support 2A.
2. Jury nullification. DOJ needs to lose cases across the board. Presumption that government agents and experts are lying.
3. Never “help” them. Don’t associate with them socially (they are increasingly living in their bubble).


11 posted on 08/19/2019 6:54:42 AM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: relictele
They order supplies. They send emails. They shuffle papers. They answer phones

NYS Gov't workers brag that they take the paper to the restroom and emerge hours later.

12 posted on 08/19/2019 7:27:27 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Kaslin

There was a piece on ABC this morning about this. Apparently the resident legal “expert” said only paranoid people think this is a conspiracy and that Epstein was murdered.

Who ya gonna believe....


13 posted on 08/19/2019 7:47:56 AM PDT by Jaded (Pope Francis? Not really a fan... miss the last guy who recognized how Islam spread... the sword.ag)
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To: 1Old Pro
The government is inept, and yet is the largest employer, doesn’t make any sense.

Sure it does.

Government creates government jobs by writing them into existence.

Government pays for those government jobs by taking money, at gunpoint, from productive citizens.

The government jobs don't have to involve any good purpose, the employees don't need any real competence, for the jobs and the taking of money to pay for the jobs to continue in perpetuity.

Or the system comes crashing down.

14 posted on 08/19/2019 7:53:45 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: relictele

I often think that it is perfectly reasonable for a large % of the USA’s high functioning sociopaths to have gravitated to large concentrations of power. The biggest is the federal bureaucracy, and particularly the alphabet agencies.

Freegards


15 posted on 08/19/2019 7:53:58 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Kaslin

bkmk


16 posted on 08/19/2019 8:30:02 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: 1Old Pro

I had the (mis)fortune of working in a building with an IRS office above us.

‘Working to rule’ as in deliberately slow, deliberately deliberate as the UK trade unions used to do when in frequent dispute was a fine art at the IRS office. Nobody arrived early and the last place you wanted to be was in front of the doors at quitting time - it looked like someone had phoned in a bomb threat. Every day.

It will come as no surprise that many of the IRS cube critters were pleasantly plump. Wearing sneakers to work because they would collapse any other shoes, wearing stretchy comfort waisted trousers, etc.

One bright federal employee initiative involved walking during the lunch hour for fresh air, fitness, reducing stress, etc.

And so the Sally Satchelbottom brigade flooded into the parking lot at noon, dutifully walking laps. I don’t know if the initiative ever had an expiration date but the Sallies soon realized that walking wasn’t required and that, in fact, they could simply sit on the benches, sidewalk and parking curbs during the ‘walking period.’ Soon after that they resorted to eating, drinking and smoking heavily during the ‘walking period.’ It’s safe to say that nobody’s fitness was improved and it’s also safe to say that any time spent outside doing nothing was not deducted from their paid hours.


17 posted on 08/19/2019 8:44:48 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Kaslin
After JFK, “they” know they can get away with anything. No matter how blatant.
18 posted on 08/19/2019 8:57:41 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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To: Old Yeller
The same government who will decide who lives and who dies when they have control of the healthcare system.

If that doesn't send chills down your spine, nothing will...

19 posted on 08/19/2019 9:17:56 AM PDT by GOPJ (Epstein - Child-Rape Pimp for White Liberal Elites... FOB - Friend of Bill...Invisible to the NYT's)
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To: Kaslin
When their accounts don't agree, or don't make sense, "conspiracy" theories flourish. "Conspiracy theorists" are routinely dismissed as being on the fringes of society. However, in this case it will be difficult to dismiss the large number of well-respected individuals on the left and right who find the official account unbelievable.

For years, I've argued that the weirdest, most bizzarre, off the wall, crazy and kookiest conspiracy theories are the ones the media and government would have you believe.

20 posted on 08/19/2019 10:34:06 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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