Posted on 08/19/2019 1:19:41 AM PDT by kaehurowing
If an armed conflict broke out between Beijing and Washington, Chinas hi-tech ballistic missiles would likely cripple the United States military bases and naval fleet across the Western Pacific region within hours, a new report by Australia-based researchers has said.
With China making rapid technological advancements and sharpening its hard power, the report urged the US and regional allies such as Australia and Japan to overhaul military investment and deployment plans, or face the prospect of American military primacy being undermined by the Asian power.
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I agree. But those are not aircraft carriers even though they can carry aircraft.
They are not classified as CVNs.
As usual you folks are only half right and mostly just plain wrong.
How many CVN could USN lose in the first day of a war with China and remain functional?
You’re wasting your air on these guys.
They relish the idea of America being weak and defeated. It gives them something else to bitch about.
The idea of the US being the superior military power, in all areas, does not suit their bias.
Even though the US, if it was found necessary, could defeat China with conventional forces easily. Easily.
And once the threshold of nukes is crossed it it NO CONTEST.
Our stuff actually works.
When you add the 10 LHA/LHD, we have over 20.
And they are bigger and more capable than any other carrier in the world except an American CVN.
Ear plugs are mandatory...
China is rapidly becoming quite strong.
Really.
My dad flew the Hump in the CBI Campaign.
He was a civilian pilot.
The price of a CVN is existential nuclear war.
In all scenarios.
China was conqureed and occupied for a very long time. China is now assuring the world that condition will not occur again.
There is a difference in security and delusions of world conquest
What would Japan and South Korea if China rained downed missiles on US bases in their countries?
“If it’s too loud, you’re too old!” :P
Only if our leadership lets it be.
The only planes that can fly off the LHA/LHD are Harriers.
The US should have long since assured that Taiwan has nukes and delivery systems. That would give the ChiComs a whole new focus and heartburn. Assured destruction of all major mainland Chinese cities would be a deterrent.
A question that might be relevant, would it be just an us vs. them conflict or could we expect help from our ‘friends’ in the region, India, Japan, Australia, NZ etc.? And does China have anybody they can count on? Maybe Pakistan, Iran. What about Russia? Does it just sit back and wait to pick up the pieces or does it join in on one side or the other? Wars often time devolve into opportunities for countries to settle old scores. Wars are seldom one on one when world powers engage.
Five have been retrofitted with new deck coatings.
The rest will be completed by the end of 2020.
True they’ve been raised to be global citizens. I have considered asking the millennials in my family if they consider themselves to be Americans, do the love their country and would they fight to save it, but I’m afraid of the answers I would get.
“Chinas strategy in the air is to kill the AWACS from long range then when our birds fire up their radar to compensate, swarm them with radar homing missiles fired in the hundreds by giant swarms of cheap missile hauler fighters.”
Similarly, they plan to use missile swarms on ships and bases in the region - DF-21 “Carrier Killers”, hypersonic glide warheads and cruise missiles.
That is likely why we recently withdrew from the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty. The 500 mile range limit gave China a huge relative free-fire range, and they have developed and deployed the capability. It was a one-sided arms race.
Post INF, the US will likely be developing and deploying longer range systems, that could attrit Chinese ships, bases and their offensive missiles before launch.
Everyone who is seriously threatened by China (like Vietnam, Taiwan and India, maybe the Philippines), or their attack dog North Korea (like South Korea and Japan) will want adequate deterrence. China has accumulated enemies all around it, well within missile range of their own critical facilities and bases (and most important cities).
Trump’s second term would like start to see such offensive capability start deploying, as the existing systems start getting range boosts; like a single shot for the existing Army HIMARS mobile launcher, or upgraded Tomahawk cruise missiles.
Some purpose built systems, like a Pershing 3 of some sort, and some boost-glide hypersonic systems could be rushed in development during that time.
And of course, the long anticipated directed energy defensive weapons to counter swarms might come along as well.
China has had a free head start, but withdrawal from INF likely means that now its game on.
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