Posted on 08/08/2019 3:57:02 AM PDT by Cronos
No10 aides think holding a vote hours after we quit Europe would give the Conservatives a boost from Leave voters.
Today’s Spectator magazine reports that officials are keen to negate the threat posed to the Tories by Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party.
The timing of the poll would also hamper Remainers who currently claim that they can stop us crashing out of the EU without a trade deal.
PM Johnson has promised Brexit will happen on October 31.
If he goes to the country the next day, it would be the first time since 1931 that a General Election has been held on a Friday.
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The timing is probably right. Before Brexit has much of a impact on the economy.
Then he will be able to claim a mandate.
Labour took it in the shorts in the ‘31 general election.
Good omen there.
Sounds like a good fantasy story but he’d have to start talking like this was factual and 100-percent likely to occur. I think two-thirds of the population would be skeptical that this would happen.
It would be a brilliant move for Boris IF it works. he could ride on the euphoria and then stay in power until 2024.
Or it could be a disaster like May’s 2017 election - where he’d be reduced by a factor of 10
Why do the Conservatives treat Nigel Farage like he’s the enemy?
They should be working WITH him, they’re both in favor of Brexit ... Labour, the EU, and their Big Media pals are the enemy
political infighting always happened whenever there are people.
>>Why do the Conservatives treat Nigel Farage like he’s the enemy?<<
Because the Conservative Party is not “conservative” in the sense we understand. For example, their manifesto embraces climate change and expansion of the NHS. They are more like RINOs, with many Remainers in their ranks.
Given the uncertainties of a post-Brexit UK then it really is the best chance for Johnson to lock in a full term.
As a Nigel Fan who loves to see him on TV, I expect that he is a conservative bridge too far.
“Because the Conservative Party is not “conservative” in the sense we understand. For example, their manifesto embraces climate change and expansion of the NHS. They are more like RINOs, with many Remainers in their ranks.”
Exactly so. Most of the “Conservative” MPs are conservative only in a relative sense, compared to the leftists there.
Quite correct — Boris Johnson and his cabinet should deliver a hard, no-deal Brexit and let the UK crash out on October 31 and then let BoJo take care of the consequences.
Firstly, we need to refer to the UK party as the Tory party - they may have “conservative” in their name, but it’s just like East Germany called itself the “German Democratic Republic”
The Tories know that half of the electorate will never vote for them again once the UK crashes out on halloween.
They also know that of the remainder, the Brexit party is eating into the Tory’s electorate.
2. He doesn't see Islam as the enemy
If UK company x regularly sells widgits to French or Belgium Company y, what will prevent the relation from continuing? Will Brits just cease buying oranges or what ever from Spain as they have done for centuries.
Will senior Citizens owning property in Portugal have to return to the UK? Will poles working in Manchester be kicked out and made to return “home”?.
Will folks in Seimens offices in UK quit talking to their counterparts in Germany? Will the UK facilities be closed, sold off?
Well I provide systems to some such companies (both in the UK and one in Belgium, the other in Italy) here’s what I see happening
you asked “If UK company x regularly sells widgits to French or Belgium Company y, what will prevent the relation from continuing?” -—> The relation will continue. The difference will be price and on-time-availability. The widgets will cost more and will take time to come, meaning more of an inventory backlog. These are not reasons to change if the producer is high quality and efficient.
what IS killing is the uncertainty - will there be checks or not? Will there be tariffs or not.
And this uncertainty will continue for a timeperiod after Brexit.
“Will Brits just cease buying oranges or what ever from Spain as they have done for centuries.” — The prices will rise and some might be delayed through customs (the latter is not very likely).
“Will senior Citizens owning property in Portugal have to return to the UK? Will poles working in Manchester be kicked out and made to return “home”?.” — we don’t know - the withdrawal agreement was supposed to take care of that. Legally both sets of people will be in legal limbo. I doubt either would be evicted. The senior citizens will just have to fill forms. The Poles would be sent home due to the bureaucracy and lowered salaries.
“Will folks in Seimens offices in UK quit talking to their counterparts in Germany? Will the UK facilities be closed, sold off?” - to the first no. Just that there would be less projects across borders. UK facilities will be partially sold off depending on internal UK demand OR increased - again depending on internal UK demand.
All of the companies I’ve worked with
1. HATE the uncertainty and they know that even after Brexit the uncertainty will remain for a time period
2. Want to consolidate their businesses either in the EU or the UK - for some businesses that were in the UK targeting continental customers, there is no reason to stay in the UK, so they’ve moved or are in the process of moving. For some (like a company I know who installs solar panels and renewable energy items across the isles) the clients are purely based in the UK and their imports are from China, so they are staying in the UK. I’ve not see any companies that were primarily continent but primarily customers in the UK so I can’t comment on those.
3. The Indian outsourcing companies see this as a potential bonanza
4. Manufacturers are a mixed bag - most of the commodities are moving to the continent, some specialty ones are staying put. As to the food manufacturers they are in a bind as most of their customers are across both “zones” and their factories are outside the UK. I can’t reveal what the ones I know are planning besides that it is again, a mixed bag.
a no-deal Brexit will happen - things are too far gone. But it will have a deleterious effect on all
Thanks for that comprehensive analysis. I too have dealings with multinational companies that will somehow be involved in the outcome of Brexit. People here deal with counterparts in UK and EU more or less as if they were down the hall or on stories above. There is of course a time difference but that gets easiy worked into the process.
My gut says the companies will put their minds to the task and some how sort it all out to their best advantage.
The Tories under Boris are now foursquare behind Brexit. Farage now needs to stand down. If he competes with the Tories under a FPTP election he risks splitting the vote and letting comrade Corbyn in.
Trump hasn’t done anything about gay marriage either, he robbed it off and said it was a done deal. As for Islam, people I know who know him have stated that his views on Islam aren’t too dissimilar to those of Tommy Robinson, however, he knows that if he allows himself to be distracted by the issue of Islam right now he will alienate too many people and the enemies of Brexit will triumph.
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