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Warning: How the VA 'Red-Flags' Patriots
Townhall.com ^ | August 7, 2019 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 08/07/2019 8:43:23 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 08/07/2019 8:43:23 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Do not tell any medical professional you are a gun owner. Ever. If they ask, do you own guns, your answer is no. Always.


2 posted on 08/07/2019 8:44:57 AM PDT by JamesP81 (The Democrat Party is a criminal organization.)
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To: Kaslin

Same article. Different Source.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3769882/posts


3 posted on 08/07/2019 8:45:32 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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The big difference is you would know they took your guns. Not why probably won’t have a real means to appeal it will take lawyers and money.


4 posted on 08/07/2019 8:52:48 AM PDT by pas
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Lawyers, guns, and money.......


5 posted on 08/07/2019 9:05:02 AM PDT by A Voice (As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the end times.)
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To: JamesP81

Guns are scary. I would never have any around the house!


6 posted on 08/07/2019 9:07:14 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Kaslin

I went to the Veterans Benefits Administration (VBA) Office in my little city.

You have to walk through a metal detector to get in.

After you go through the metal detector, you must sign in with the armed guard.

The armed guard is just a few feet away from the front office of the VBA.

You must go into the front office on VBA issues. The adjudicators are behind a locked door behind the armed guard.

I had an appointment to see the office manager, an older woman.

I sat down and showed her my bank statements proving that someone at VBA was stealing from me.

She produced a piece of paper with nothing but two numbers on it.

She claimed that the paper proved that no one was stealing from me.

I told her anybody can write numbers on a sheet of paper.

It didn’t prove anything.

I lifted up my bank statements and asked her to look at them.

She started screaming.

Not talking,

SCREAMING.

“SIR, GET OUT OF MY OFFICE! SIR, GET OUT OF MY OFFICE.”

I realized that she was calling for the armed guard.

I figured if they had some big criminal operation going on, that the armed guard might be in on it.

I got the heck out of there.

The metal detector and the armed guard are there to let you know that they can shoot you if you cause them trouble at the VBA.

I contacted the regional office.

Not even a reply.

I contacted the VA Inspector General.

Not even a reply.

The VBA is organized crime.

They will steal from you and all the employees will swear that they did nothing wrong.

You can also wind up on The Bad Veteran List, or have the armed guard come for you.

They make sure you are unarmed.


7 posted on 08/07/2019 9:16:55 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Read the entire article......[snip]"The potential 'red flag' laws concern me deeply," Strain told me. "Why any citizen would think it wise to let the government screw such handles to our backs, to threaten and wag us any which way, is beyond my understanding. However, I fully understand why politicians want it."


8 posted on 08/07/2019 9:17:11 AM PDT by yoe
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Gun rights orgs excluding embroiled NRA.

https://www.saf.org/

https://gunowners.org/

https://nationalgunrights.org/

https://constitutionalrightspac.com/#


9 posted on 08/07/2019 9:19:00 AM PDT by Lopeover (We Are #TRUMPSTRONG)
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To: Kaslin

Nazis had gun laws too. America is becoming a Nazi Germany clone.


10 posted on 08/07/2019 9:29:42 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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My jarhead nephew had just returned from Sandboxistan after his second tour.

He went to the Houston VA (Obie was still prez) because he had contracted some weird ailment.

The VA had a special clinic for returning vets. The nurse had an armed guard accompany my nephew to the BATHROOM. WTF? Did they classify every returning Marine as a threat?

A doctor tried to convince him that he had PTSD which he did NOT.

I hope that the VA has seen some changes since Obie left.

BTW, I think my nephew got liver fluke parasites from eating the local food over there. He has been quite ill, but is now recovering.

Our country is blessed to have such outstanding young warriors.


11 posted on 08/07/2019 9:29:49 AM PDT by darth
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That is the exact line I used when I lived in Minnesota. I also did the maximum liberal snowflake act when dealing with so called medical professionals there.


12 posted on 08/07/2019 9:50:29 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: pas
Not why probably won’t have a real means to appeal it will take lawyers and money.

I used to think that organizations like the NRA, GOA, etc. were in the forefront of that. Looks like I was wrong.

13 posted on 08/07/2019 10:10:40 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Kaslin

An interesting note, is that I know of a VA federal employee that recommends that clients do not seek PTSD compensation because this will require a medical PTSD diagnosis which will eventually lead to gun confiscation.

Such a diagnosis will eventually make it’s way into the red flag laws, and the VA, being a federal entity, will provide the names.

So those that bravely fought in the name of their country will lose their right to defend their own lives.

I recall reading an article decades ago about how the Soviet soldier was one of the few allowed to own a gun for hunting. My point being, the commies treated their soldiers better in this area.


14 posted on 08/07/2019 10:11:15 AM PDT by redfreedom
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Back a few years ago when this was going on at the VA, I had to go into Urgent Care because go a cold that turned into a bronchitis. I needed some antibiotics to kick it out of my chest.

Well, during triage, the very first question out of the medical technician's mouth was, do you own a gun?

I hesitated because it shocked me and I wasn't sure where he was headed with it. I was in there for medial treatment and an Rx and wasn't expecting the question.

But after a few moments of an uncomfortable pause on my part, I answered in the negative.

I simply said, "That's none of your damn business."

He said fine, that they were required to ask everyone who presented for treatment, the same question. And that was the end of it.

I know they have dropped the policy since then because I have never been asked the gun ownership question again despite multiple visits to the VA.

Red-flagging veterans about their gun ownership apparently didn't go over very well with the veterans themselves.

15 posted on 08/07/2019 10:15:48 AM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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We have a new VA clinic in our area and I went there to check on getting med supplies. I had to be “buzzed” in the door just to get into the place. There were huge bronze plaques spelling out how criminal it is to bring a gun into the place. The receptionists worked behind plexiglass shielded windows.

I’m so thankful I have medicare and a supplement that covers just about everything except meds. I pitty the poor vet that has to use this jackass system. And to think the lefties want to pattern free healthcare after this mess.


16 posted on 08/07/2019 10:16:51 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: blueunicorn6
 
 
It's attorney time for you. Starting off with some well-placed certified return receipt letters is always a good way to shake some things loose and get a ball rolling.
 
 

17 posted on 08/07/2019 10:18:09 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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Makes me sad to read of the problems others are experiencing. My VA Hospital and treatment within, are outstanding.

I’m sure care quality has something to do with where you live (which is shouldn’t!), though President Trump has signed quite a number of positive bills that are awesome for us Vets. I’m expecting even more from him in his next term. :)

https://www.conservapedia.com/Donald_Trump_achievements:_Veterans

One of my favorites, that saves me time and gas money for more localized care if I need it. I was able to have my mammogram done locally this year, for a change. I am an hour away (drive time) from my VA:

June 6, 2018—President Trump signed the VA Mission Act into law, a major reform of the department which expanded veterans’ access to private healthcare, created new healthcare programs, and reorganized existing programs for efficiency.[22]

Read through the list. The legislation and EOs are impressive for a guy who has only been in the game for 3 years! MAGA! :)


18 posted on 08/07/2019 10:18:54 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (We come from the earth, we return to the earth, and in between we garden.~Alfred Austin)
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To: lapsus calami

Tried to get an attorney.

You can only use VA approved attorneys.

I kid you not.

Drove across the state to see the one VA approved attorney in my state.

He said,

“I’m still on that list? Thanks for stopping by.”

VBA is organized crime.


19 posted on 08/07/2019 10:24:56 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: darth
".... Did they classify every returning Marine as a threat?...."

During the Obama administration, the answer to your question is yes.

Remember the lesbian dyke, Janet Napalitano who served as Obama's head of Homeland Security?

She issued an intelligence report in 2009 that said that returning veterans posed a high terrorist risk and threat to the US.

Her statement was met with so much blowback from veterans' groups and the GOP, that she later apologize for the statement.

But it gives you some insight into how the Obama administration viewed the veteran community.

20 posted on 08/07/2019 10:32:04 AM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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