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1 posted on 08/01/2019 6:56:02 AM PDT by bitt
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2 posted on 08/01/2019 6:56:28 AM PDT by bitt (US intel is there to protect the safety and security of Americans. It is not a political tool.)
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Of course not.

Meanwhile, back at the Feinstein (D-Beijing) compound, people were ignoring one of our real enemies, especially in technology and space.


3 posted on 08/01/2019 6:57:45 AM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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They wanted hildebeast!............... 👿
4 posted on 08/01/2019 6:58:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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The Russians bribed HELLary with more than $600 MILLION to get 20% of US uranium.

Russia wanted HELLary to win knowing she would do whatever they commanded.

It’s not rocket science...


5 posted on 08/01/2019 6:58:41 AM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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No because Putin wants to discourage democracy in his own country and have his people believe that all Western elections are rigged by the establishment/elite just as it is in Russia. Russian State Media made it clear that Hillary had it in the bag regardless of the will of the American people.


6 posted on 08/01/2019 7:00:43 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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Look. It's simple. It's not complicated.

The Democrats and their fellow travelers could not believe that Hillary could lose a rigged election.

They assumed that the only way Trump could win was by cheating, which is what they would have done if they were in his place.

So they trumped up the charge that Trump had colluded with the Russians to rig--and win--the election. Whether they actually believed this or not is an open question.

That's it.

7 posted on 08/01/2019 7:04:59 AM PDT by Savage Beast (When the Light of Truth threatens to expose corruption, it's the corrupt who try to extinguish it.)
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Hillary is crazy and they knew it.


8 posted on 08/01/2019 7:06:33 AM PDT by Democrats hate too much
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I see very little discussion of another serious problem with the (made up) story that the Russians hacked the DNC server and gave that data to Wikileaks:

Intelligence agencies love to to collect anything they can about important people like the certain winner of the 2016 election: Hillary Clinton.

That would be very valuable intelligence. Blackmail is just one of many possibilities. BUT NOT IF YOU MAKE THAT INFORMATION PUBLIC.

The very idea that the DNC material passed from Russian hands to Julian Assange and Wikileaks is simply absurd. The CIA wouldn’t do that nor would the KGB. Possible leverage lost. Nothing gained. Nope.


10 posted on 08/01/2019 7:16:46 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. A)
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Of course, not. It was Hellary who gave them the uranium, not Trump. It was obamy who had flexibility with them, not Trump. Russia has longtime solid ties with the DNC, not Tump.


11 posted on 08/01/2019 7:18:00 AM PDT by bgill
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There could be only one possible reason for the Russians to secretly want Trump to win, and it is geopolitical: they figured he would make the United States stronger and be a counter-balance to China, which the Russians need.

However, it would be, as Obama said, impossible for any foreign nation to tamper with the presidential election.

That is foreign nation. The democrats try to illegally tamper with the presidential election every chance they get. And the MSM. And now Google, Facebook, and Twitter.


12 posted on 08/01/2019 7:19:23 AM PDT by odawg
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Absolutely. But now they aren’t happy. Better than Hillary for them too though.


14 posted on 08/01/2019 7:28:27 AM PDT by NorseViking
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Personally i am quite thankful Trump won and Hillary lost, its revenge for having an usurper in charge for 8 years.
And i think most of America agrees.


15 posted on 08/01/2019 7:42:01 AM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best)
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The Russians wished to cast doubt on the legitimacy of ANY US President, and in this they have been relatively successful.

The Russians may have interfered in local elections in both Los Angeles and New York City to produce overwhelming majorities for Herself, giving her a large part of the majority in the popular vote in California and New York State, much of the rest coming from locally generated vote fraud. So on paper, while it looked like Herself got the majority of votes, those supernumerary votes were very unevenly distributed, thus Trump won on the electoral college vote by a sizable margin. The “popular vote” count threw doubt in the accuracy of the measure of the temper of the people across the nation, and it was enough to keep things in ferment several years after the fact.

I sincerely believe the Russians, as well as other foreign entities, conspired to skew the final popular vote tally in not only the Presidential election, but in many House and Senate races as well. Those marginal races that went to Democrats in the 2018 election? Clandestine Russian money and influence, as well as the usual voter fraud in those districts.


16 posted on 08/01/2019 7:42:37 AM PDT by alloysteel (Nowhere in the Universe is there escape from the consequences of the crime of stupidity.)
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The Russians wished to cast doubt on the legitimacy of ANY US President, and in this they have been relatively successful.

The Russians may have interfered in local elections in both Los Angeles and New York City to produce overwhelming majorities for Herself, giving her a large part of the majority in the popular vote in California and New York State, much of the rest coming from locally generated vote fraud. So on paper, while it looked like Herself got the majority of votes, those supernumerary votes were very unevenly distributed, thus Trump won on the electoral college vote by a sizable margin. The “popular vote” count threw doubt in the accuracy of the measure of the temper of the people across the nation, and it was enough to keep things in ferment several years after the fact.

I sincerely believe the Russians, as well as other foreign entities, conspired to skew the final popular vote tally in not only the Presidential election, but in many House and Senate races as well. Those marginal races that went to Democrats in the 2018 election? Clandestine Russian money and influence, as well as the usual voter fraud in those districts.


18 posted on 08/01/2019 7:47:59 AM PDT by alloysteel (Nowhere in the Universe is there escape from the consequences of the crime of stupidity.)
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Hard to believe Russia would want a patriot, fighter, hard-dealing competitor as POTUS here. My gut tells my they preferred Clinton(s).

With the Clintons’ proclivity toward helping our enemies (Chicoms, U1), and her pushing socialism and gun control like a good comrade, and knowing her plans would weaken us and our military, why would they not want her in?


21 posted on 08/01/2019 8:04:26 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To believe the Russians were seriously investing in a Trump presidency, you would have to think they knew more about the American electorate than any of our pollsters, pundits and officials.

Prior to Election Day, nobody seriously gave Trump a chance of winning. The only question was “ how bad will he lose”.

The Russians wanted electoral chaos and a weakened Clinton as President.


22 posted on 08/01/2019 8:13:48 AM PDT by XRdsRev (You can't spell HILLARY without the letters LIAR.)
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“Did the Russians Really Want Trump to Win?

No f’n way they could have made vast inroads in reshaping America with Hillary in power for eight years.


23 posted on 08/01/2019 8:24:07 AM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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A rival and potential enemy would certainly prefer a weak, corrupt, self-serving career politician over a strong, America first, non-politician businessman who can’t be intimidated or bought.


24 posted on 08/01/2019 8:37:43 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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In a word, “No.”

Why? Vladimir Putin is quoted as having said that the greatest geopolitical tragedy of the 20th Century was the dissolution of the USSR. Putin was right in the middle of what was going on, as a mid- to high-level KGB agent. If ANYONE on the entire planet knows what happened to the USSR, Putin does.

So what happened to the USSR? Ronald Reagan and William Casey happened, that’s what. Reagan had the vision to destroy the USSR - to put it on the ash heap of History. Casey, as his CIA Director and a man very well acquainted with destroying a hostile nation, was given the authority to do whatever it took to accomplish the task. What was Casey’s experience in this realm? He worked hand-in-hand with “Wild” Bill Donovan, head of the OSS during WW2, to find out what the critical choke points were in the Nazi economy/war machine. Because of what Casey (and others) found, we went hammer and tongs against the Ploesti oil fields in Romania and the Schweinfurt ball bearing manufacturing facilities. We paid a heavy price for doing those (and other) things to choke the German war machine, but they had their effect...and Casey took those lessons and applied them to the USSR.

So Reagan ramped up defense spending, so as to force the Soviets to spend enormous resources on a non-productive bunch of goods. He (at the advice of Casey) did everything possible to stop the twin gas pipelines that the Soviets wanted to use to earn $20 billion/year. He delayed it for 2 years ($40 billion) and then the Soviets were able to only use 1 of the pipes (another $10 billion/year). He (again at Casey’s recommendation) made a deal with the Saudis to defend their country and regime, in return for them buying LOADS of expensive equipment from us and ramping up oil production like crazy. They upped production from about 3 MBD to over 12 MBD in about 6 months, crushing oil (and natural gas) prices - which crushed Soviet hard currency revenue (they got about 2/3 of their foreign currency earnings from oil and natural gas, same as now, btw). We also cooperated with the Poles in their revolt, armed the Afghans that were shooting at the Russians and sent them on a very time-consuming and costly snipe hunt WRT computer technology.

So, what does this have to do with Trump, you may ask? Very simple: he essentially promised to do the same thing as Reagan - ramp up both defense spending and oil/natural gas production (although, due to fracking and our ultra-large reserves of shale oil, we didn’t need the Saudis to do it for us this time around). The effect on the (New York State-sized) Russian economy would be about the same as the effect that the Reagan-Casey strategy had on the Soviet economy - it would hurt them, BADLY. For that reason, there is no possible way that Putin would have wanted Trump. Hillary wasn’t saying anything about a military build-up (and had a long-earned reputation of hating the military and urging cut-backs on spending), and was 100% behind the idea of restricting oil and NG exploration and production (all the better to help the “donors” to the Clinton “Foundation”). Oh, and then there was Uranium One...guaranteed that old Vlad has a file several feet thick sitting in his Kremlin office on all that Hillary had to do with selling control of 20% of our uranium reserves to Russian companies, and the quid pro quo of $145 million of “contributions” to the Clinton “Foundation,” not to mention (well, OK, I will) the extraordinarily large payments to Bill Clinton for given a few speeches in Russia.

Putin would only have wanted Trump over Hillary if he was short on information, logic and love of his own country...which NO ONE on the planet claims applies to him.


25 posted on 08/01/2019 8:54:35 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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Not entirely off topic; Chuck Schumer’s warning to Trump:

“Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer Tuesday evening on MSNBC after host Rachel Maddow informed him that intelligence sources told NBC news that the briefing had not been delayed.

And, since that comment drew no outrage, it is apparently taken for granted in the upper echelons of our government. Who runs the country?


28 posted on 08/01/2019 9:12:48 AM PDT by suthener
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