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As Raids Failed to Materialize, Many Immigrants Still Felt Fearful
WNYC ^ | 7/14/2019 | Mirela Iverac and Beth Fertig

Posted on 07/15/2019 8:06:33 AM PDT by RightGeek

The city braced for deportation raids this weekend that didn’t come to pass, but legal groups and city officials fanned out across the five boroughs to assuage fears and inform immigrants of their rights.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents were planning to arrest families who recently arrived, missed their court dates, and were ordered deported. But fear has spread among many immigrants. At Saint Joan of Arc Church on Stratford Avenue in the Bronx, around 60 people filed into the basement for know-your-rights workshops. Alejandra, who didn’t want to provide her last name, said she came to the U.S. 12 years ago from Mexico and doesn’t have legal status. She said she feels afraid.

“We stay at home,” she said in Spanish. “We can’t go out.”

She said she rarely leaves her house now, because she worries what would happen to her two U.S. citizen daughters if she got deported. Hilario Galicia Montes, a volunteer at the church, said he wasn’t afraid, after spending 21 years in the country and regularly paying taxes. But he said many of his friends are scared.

“They don’t want to go out,” he said. “They don’t want to go to work.”

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: deport; feint; tactics; trumpdhs; trumpillegals
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To: dljordan

“an immigration package to ensure that we never have another Republican president (like that’s done us any good) and white people never have a voice in anything”

We need to put tax caps in the Constitution.

Congress has the power to put a 100% indirect tax on real property.

From the Articles of Confederation:

“Article VIII. All charges of war, and all other expenses that shall be incurred for the common defense or general welfare, and allowed by the united States in congress assembled, shall be defrayed out of a common treasury, which shall be supplied by the several States in proportion to the value of all land within each State, granted or surveyed for any person, as such land and the buildings and improvements thereon shall be estimated according to such mode as the united States in congress assembled, shall from time to time direct and appoint.

“The taxes for paying that proportion shall be laid and levied by the authority and direction of the legislatures of the several States within the time agreed upon by the united States in congress assembled.

https://usconstitution.net/articles.html

This indirect taxation could be reinstated by Congress and the rate set at 100%.

“Private property...is the creature of society and is subject to the calls of that society even to the last farthing.”

Benjamin Franklin

https://www.azquotes.com/quote/1350127


41 posted on 07/15/2019 8:36:26 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: bert

If they are real Republicans we need a new party that sides with the citizens and the rule of law, because they don’t.


42 posted on 07/15/2019 8:36:35 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: bert

The upside should be:

Be deported, you are “documented” as deported. NTR. Never To Return, might as well not even think about getting back in line.

But, for those that self-deport, you are the “undocumented deported”, completely eligible to getting back in line. Legally.


43 posted on 07/15/2019 8:37:21 AM PDT by C210N (You can vote your way into Socialism; but, you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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To: thesharkboy

.....” fear has spread among many immigrants”......

Do I care?...not in the least.


44 posted on 07/15/2019 8:40:09 AM PDT by caww
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To: RightGeek

Well, the only way to conquer fear is confrontation. These illegals should march down to the nearest ICE office and tell them how uncomfortable ICE is making them. They are sure to feel much better after facing their fears.


45 posted on 07/15/2019 8:40:24 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Lurkinanloomin

All of the data sharing that is coming together now at last will provide for exactly what you ask..

Who are the Employers hiring illegals who are using SSN’s that are not theirs and paying them directly versus under the table. This to me is the biggest change that came from the Census issue, asking a question is nothing compared to what the data shows including who, where and how exposing all the players in the game


46 posted on 07/15/2019 8:41:54 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: bert

Maybe not, but the pressure to self-deport must be applied as part of the overall removal process. Pictures of illegal aliens handcuffed being placed in squad cars appearing in the media will increase the fear. The left will scream, the illegals defecate!!

And I hope you agree it would be very helpful that the process will be more effective if the general public would pressure employers of illegals and sanctuary churches by withholding their dollars.


47 posted on 07/15/2019 8:42:04 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Nobody is stopping her taking her daughters with her.


48 posted on 07/15/2019 8:42:25 AM PDT by caww
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To: Lurkinanloomin
If you see people speaking Spanish, ask if they have a green card, if they say no, tell them ICE is looking for them.

Point of order, ask them if they are in the country legally.

Lots of people whose mother tongue is not English have valid visas or US citizenship.

49 posted on 07/15/2019 8:44:19 AM PDT by null and void (The Left isn't banning "Hate Speech", they are banning speech they hate. BIG difference.)
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To: bgill
Funny how these folks who are supposed to be living in the shadows and afraid to go outside always seem to end up in headlines.

BINGO!
50 posted on 07/15/2019 8:44:38 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: RightGeek

Well god forbid illegal aliens don’t feel “comfortable”.

Jeeze Louise.


51 posted on 07/15/2019 8:50:07 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: RightGeek

NBC or CBS did a bleeding heart feature on the invaders - interviewed a guy who’d been here FIFTEEN years and still didn’t speak English for the interview.


52 posted on 07/15/2019 8:55:13 AM PDT by GnuThere
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To: Moonman62

If you are not a criminal, you have nothing to fear.


53 posted on 07/15/2019 8:56:33 AM PDT by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: TADSLOS

Trump’s covfefe head feints with the Roundup threats are hysterically funny.


54 posted on 07/15/2019 8:57:00 AM PDT by VietVet876
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

This is a bed they CHOSE to sleep in knowing full well their families would be at risk when they got here illegally. And where’s their outcry when the Mexican Flag goes up in our country????? Crickets!


55 posted on 07/15/2019 8:58:37 AM PDT by caww
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To: elpadre

The media has been using the word “migrant” as of late also. its irritating! They’re aliens...ALIENS!!


56 posted on 07/15/2019 8:59:11 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Yeah, let's GO THERE. I'm ready...)
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To: Logical me
Yep, this is something that is rarely discussed. Once the parasites are introduced, they cannot be removed.

Consider Rome - highly intelligent, motivated and disciplined people create a thriving expanding economy & stable, functioning society. This in turn attracts low IQ, low skill peasants throughout the empire willing to do the dirty work so that the native Romans can enjoy the fruits of their accomplishments. Fast forward a few centuries, and the marginal inhabitants are now the majority segment. Rome cannot hold, and is eventually vanquished by Germanic tribes who take control of every western province. (Hence the blond Italians, Spaniards, etc.)

The essential problem is the new migrants *do* become part of the functioning economy, even at a low level. For instance, Trump well knows he cannot deport millions if only due to the effects on real estate prices, which in turn are secured by mortgages which comprise a major portion of banking reserves. So, in this case, the reason the GOPe hates Trump is that even since he knows these fundamental factors and will do nothing about it, he still playing the us vs them card to his base in order to satisfy his own personal ego in terms of reaching the presidency.

As any thinking person probably knows, there is only one way the invaders can be removed, and that is via civil war. The pity is that the satanists who have engineered this destruction are still hiding in the shadows, knowing full well Trump won't go there. So, ultimately it will be left to the people themselves somewhere down the line. All that I can add as recommendation to future readers is package the movement within a religious context. A liberal secular society is no match against a unified foe - only a like binding cultural belief system will have any chance of success.

The words and phrases are already provided: satanists, cruel tyrants, worshipers of evil, etc. Claim the moral high ground and prosecute the enemy with righteous authority.

57 posted on 07/15/2019 9:00:30 AM PDT by semantic
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To: All

58 posted on 07/15/2019 9:04:03 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (We come from the earth, we return to the earth, and in between we garden.~Alfred Austin)
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To: bert

Wrong, force deport 1,000,000 and 9,000,000 will self deport.


59 posted on 07/15/2019 9:04:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bert

Bush I and II were real globalist douche bags. Kinda like you.


60 posted on 07/15/2019 9:06:32 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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