Posted on 07/13/2019 7:10:23 AM PDT by gaijin
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
yeah, celebrity...
Check this out:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html - epstein
from link:
So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn’t some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that IMO perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):
(1/13) Let’s take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We’ll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich
(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you’re very disposable (see: DC madam), and it’s also not super lucrative. You can’t charge millions of dollars up front.
(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don’t need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you’re still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.
(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)
(5/13) You don’t even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she’ll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.
(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)
(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don’t really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)
(8/13) The fund itself doesn’t need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don’t want to money from non-pedophiles, or they’ll notice you’ve just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)
(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.
(10/13) Because of this structure, you’re extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren’t clients, they’re pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)
(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don’t invest in the fund, but it’s nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.
(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you’re ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There’s almost zero risk.
(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You’d want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can’t touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?
I bet there’s a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.
The fact that Epstein’s fund is offshore in a tax haven — it is based in the U.S. Virgin Islands — and has a secret client list both add credence to the blackmail theory.
In case you missed it.
Woody always hung out at Dalton the way Philip Roth used to hang out at Finch!
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Actress Ellen Barkin:
”Ghislaine Maxwell told me, point-blank, that she was personally flying girls out to Epstein’s island.”
Nothing to do with the Trump administration, or a direct attack on Trump, of course...
BTW - did I say "Eff The New York Times"?
Signed, Epstein's Mom.
Again, the upper eastside isn’t all that liberal. Of course, it skews left compared to red states’ attitudes. Ask Bill DeBlasio about the upper eastside.
Do freepers confuse it with the upper westside?
The problem with blackmailing rich and powerful people is that it only takes one to have you killed.
I settled for weird excerpting in the OP because there are a number of Freepers who absolutely WILL NOT click on a NYT link, out of principle and otherwise they’d have read NOTHING from the article.
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There is nothing that will make them read the article, and it has nothing to do with the source. Sorry.
EXTREMELY plausible theory you have, there.
I’d say there’s one more angle:
He could do allll that, but also keep his spy bosses apprised.
These victims are people who could move money around, open accounts, vouch for shadowy, much-traveling operatives.
He could do everything you said, with the motives you postulated: And at the end of it all there would be this yuge, ready-made, turn-key infrastructure for an ambitious country periodically needing to do amazing things quickly and quietly.
I’d say it started out for personal gain and then the resulting infrastructure at the end of it all was sometimes farmed out for big-time spy ops.
Classic.
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That’s on a Jerusalem hillside. He repeatedly said the only place he was truely comfortable in the world (he was world traveled) was in Israel.
MI6 had classified him as loyal only to Israel.
His real name was Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch. He was born in a part of Czeckoslavakia that is now part of the Ukraine.
They had 3 different medical inquests regarding his body and each time they came up with a different cause of death.
The first company his daugher Ghislaine started was the “Kit-Kat Club”. She has VFR and IFR ratings in both fixed wing aircraft and choppers —she flew many girls out to Epstein’s island.
By that I mean her own hands were on the flight controls.
Many people think she, too, was in Mossad, specializing in honey-trap operations.
Hmmmmm....well, her jacket sure seems like it.
Wait, that's an amazing statement:
You're saying the actor/director WOODY ALLEN hung out at The Dalton School, this same school..?!
And this Finch; do you mean Abercrombie & Fitch..?
And which Philip Roth are you talking about.
I think you're really onto something, here.
Who is Jim Treacher?
Woody Allen's co-star Mariel Hemingway (in Manhattan) was (that is, played) a student at Dalton. In the movie, he was in a sexual relationship with her, and it made people in his circle of friends uncomfortable.
The relationship played a central role in the movie, and was the source of some memorable lines.
Ah, ok.
You are talking about the American fiction writer Philip Roth, who died just last year.
And you say he hung out at FINCH:
Where is this..?
I dug a little more and now I think I understand:
There used to be a women’s college on the upper-east side, Finch College, and it had a high-school.
And the fiction writer Philip Roth used to, errr, hang out there, like Epstein at Dalton.
Yup!
I agree completely.
It was a wealth/reputation system of political control and it yielded incredible power.
This system had the power to transform something tiny into something huge and powerful.
SPJNK x 10.
With income of likely 8 figures, he must have filed tax returns. Few folks in that category of income avoid IRS audits...many have them annually. If the prosecutor in the SDNY is serious, all filings would be on his or her desk by now.
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