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Immigrants sue to block Trump’s threatened new deportation roundup of families planned for Sunday
MSN ^ | 7-11-2019 | Dave Goldiner

Posted on 07/11/2019 12:17:16 PM PDT by tcrlaf

Immigrant advocates sued Thursday to preemptively block President Trump’s threatened new round-up of thousands of undocumented families this weekend.

The White House insists the raids — the same ones that Trump scrapped last month — will target immigrant families that have already been given deportation orders.

But the ACLU says many of them have never had a day in court due to massive bureaucratic bungling.

“The Trump administration’s threats against immigrants run roughshod over basic fairness and due process,” said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union. “We will fight to ensure no one faces this kind of peril without having their case considered in court.”

The suit was filed in Manhattan federal court on behalf of refugees from Central Americans, many of whom say they have tried without success to get hearings.

It demands that anyone detained in the planned raids be granted a hearing with a judge before being deported.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aclu; aliens; deport; ice; illegal; roundup
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To: aquila48

Trump has deferred to courts on immigration form terrorist nations and his emergency declaration which was not overridden by congress. Yo9u can’t run a country if 200 judges can tell you how to handle emergencies.

Lastly WTH did the4y announce the raid. They wanted a court case.


21 posted on 07/11/2019 12:35:15 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: Glad2bnuts

“President Trump has no intention of deporting the 10’s of millions of wetbacks. Neither does he have intentions on building the wall. It is all a politicians trick.”

Oh please.

Yeah dude, he’s just putting himself through all of this s*it as a “trick”, huh?

The hayseed from bumfrick USA just blew the lid on that one.

No one should ever fool themselves into thinking the full load of stupidity in this nation is housed on the political left.


22 posted on 07/11/2019 12:36:23 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: ScottfromNJ

“Or Trump simply ignoring judges who overstep their authority.”

And then what?

I’ll sit back and listen to the fantasy scenario that people that keep suggesting think will work.


23 posted on 07/11/2019 12:37:54 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: tcrlaf

LOL! ACLU? No standing...


24 posted on 07/11/2019 12:38:18 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: tcrlaf
There are millions of illegal aliens and foreign nationals who have no right to be within the United States. There's no presumption of innocence or a court hearing required. Absconders are just one class, they've already had their day in court and were told to leave. This shit has to end.
25 posted on 07/11/2019 12:41:52 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: tcrlaf

“he White House insists the raids — the same ones that Trump scrapped last month — will target immigrant families that have already been given deportation orders.”

These people are Migrants.They are Not immigrants.So they need to get the hell out Now.


26 posted on 07/11/2019 12:41:53 PM PDT by puppypusher ( The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: tcrlaf

These immigrants back e tried without success to get a hearing? Then what are they worried about? Just another delay.


27 posted on 07/11/2019 12:42:15 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (2020 four more years!)
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To: morphing libertarian

“Lastly WTH did the4y announce the raid.”

Because either way, it will take 2 hours for a judge to get in the way.

This isnt the 1820s where it would take weeks to get word anywhere.

The ACLU and Co. aren’t just sitting around clueless either. They have this stuff filed and ready to go at a moments notice too.Some of you have this weird idea that ICE can round out 1,000,000 people, scurry them to planes, and have them up in the air and back in (insert nation here) before these dedicated activists have even gotten word. Maybe the right is that pathetically slow, but the left isnt.


28 posted on 07/11/2019 12:42:15 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: tcrlaf

Start already.


29 posted on 07/11/2019 12:44:22 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: VanDeKoik

BS The security of officers and benefit of surprise should be foremost They don’t want to deport or else they wouldn’t have alerted the court. These people have had their shot in court. Time to tell the court it’s overt.


30 posted on 07/11/2019 12:45:16 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: tcrlaf

What possible standing do these reprobate organizations have to sue?


31 posted on 07/11/2019 12:46:56 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: madprof98

Don’t expect them to put down their phones or remotes and get off the couch. People are far too lazy and still far too well-off in America to risk their necks with such an action.


32 posted on 07/11/2019 12:48:06 PM PDT by JerseyDvl ("If you're going through hell, keep going.")
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To: tcrlaf

“But the ACLU says many of them have never had a day in court due to massive bureaucratic bungling. “

Now just a cotton pickin’ minit here. Let’s be fair. The court sent a notice to the asylum seekers’ stated address, which was bogus. Therefore, they didn’t get adequate notice of a hearing date, because the court clerk failed to find out their real addresses.


33 posted on 07/11/2019 12:48:14 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: aquila48

“Riiiight, just like he has done countless times in the past”

It’s never too late to start.


34 posted on 07/11/2019 12:49:11 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: tcrlaf

“...refugees from Central Americans...”. You mean people who fled MS-13 for a safer neighborhood?


35 posted on 07/11/2019 12:49:43 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: eyeamok

It’s the “this court” part of your senario which I have trouble with. I don’t believe that the ACLU has any intention of challenging the orders in the same federal court that issued them, but in some other convieniently chosen district court, which raises a jurisdictional rather than standing issue.


36 posted on 07/11/2019 12:50:08 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: morphing libertarian

“They don’t want to deport or else they wouldn’t have alerted the court.”

Brother, you really have zero idea how any of this works, do you? It isnt some plot from a bad CBS political thriller drama.

The minute the raid start, people WILL know, and the usual will demand emergency hearings from a shopped judge.

That isnt going to take weeks, but hours.

So no there is no “surprise”. These people will not be on planes, properly ID’d and out of the nation by then.


37 posted on 07/11/2019 12:50:15 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: aquila48; tcrlaf
They won’t have any trouble finding a judge that will block this.

Filed in Manattan, where you can't swing a dead rat without hitting a donkey judge.

FR thread: Nancy Pelosi Warns Illegal Immigrants Not To Open The Door For ICE

38 posted on 07/11/2019 12:50:39 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: VanDeKoik

the bottom issue is they have had their hearings and Trump should execute the order and ignore judicial orders for another level of hearing.


39 posted on 07/11/2019 12:57:38 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: Glad2bnuts

You pathetic jerk!

If you can do better than Trump, get your lazy ass off your computer and run for office! Until then, STFU!


40 posted on 07/11/2019 12:58:30 PM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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