Posted on 07/11/2019 9:09:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
To begin, I want to make crystal clear that I'm opposed to the burning of flags as a means of making a statement. It's childish, not to mention pointless. I'm even less of a fan of burning flags that don't belong to you. That's beyond pointlessit actually harms your cause and it is a crime. I support property rights, after all. That being said, charging someone with a hate crime for burning a flag is a bit much. But that's exactly what may happen to idiot arsonist Tyresse Singleton.
The New York City Police Department broke the news on Twitter that they had arrested Singleton for burning three gay pride flags flown outside of the Alibi Lounge, a gay bar in Harlem. To be more specific, the arrest was announced by the NYC Police Hate Crimes Task Force's Twitter page.
Look, arrest the idiot and throw the book at him. But elevating it to a hate crime takes away from actual hate crimes. Years ago, a gay friend of mine was a victim of gay-bashing. He spent a few days in the hospital. I'm sorry, but a few torched flags are not equal to someone taking a brick to the face.
I get that we live in overly-sensitive times where every single action requires being ramped up to an earth-shattering level of tragedy. And I get that political correctness requires the authorities to treat certain forms of vandalism as extra heinous. But, ask yourself, what do you think someone would be charged with if they burned the Betsy Ross flag proudly waving from your front porch?
If you guessed that the individual would be charged with a "hate crime," you'd be wrong. Never mind that the arsonist most likely would have been motivated by a hatred for you and your patriotism. In that scenario, though, there's a better chance that the person would earn a fat contract to help Nike sell their shoes made by slave labor. And there's an almost 100% chance that burning a Betsy Ross flag that doesn't belong to him would earn him the support and adulation of leftist heroes like Kamala Harris and AOC. It sure wouldn't have earned this statement from New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who, according to NBC News, said of the burning of the pride flags: "I am appalled by the burning of yet another pride flag outside an LGBTQ bar in Harlem. This act of hate is repugnant to our values of equality and inclusion, and we will not stand by and allow these cowardly acts to continue in New York."
Again, to be clear, I am thankful that the New York City Police have done their job and taken an idiot vandal off the streets. Tyresse Singleton deserved to be arrested and deserves to be charged with a series of crimes that correspond with his arson. What we don't need is to elevate every instance of stupidity to the level of terrorism.
While piss christ is heralded as art???
I have no problem with burning the symbol of sodomy.
...arsonist Tyresse Singleton...
Racial profiling, that's all that it is. :^)
What about the Marxist Left who burn the American flag? What were they charged with?
Exactly. We need to use Alinsky’s rules for radicals against the Left by insisting that burning Old Glory is a hate crime.
Exactly HOW does the State quantify ‘hate’ in a trial? What calibration is used to ensure said quantity?
Was it ‘dislike’? or full on ‘odium’??
Why? People burn the US flag every day of the week. What’s so special about a gay flag?
Typical racist Dems.
Okay.
Theft. He stole it.
This is John Ellis’ way of subtly kissing the lgbtq ring.
How many have torched Old Glory and walked away without incident?
Have not the courts already ruled burning the American flag is ‘free speech’?
Yet Ellis calls this a form of terrorism and gives the police an ‘atta boy!’?
Johnny’s not fooling everyone.
RE: This is John Ellis way of subtly kissing the lgbtq ring. How many have torched Old Glory and walked away without incident?
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This really should be a PROPERTY RIGHTS issue as John Ellis said.
If the flag (gay pride or American) is OWNED by someone, you do not have the right to grab it and burn it.
What the author objects to is the topping on of “Hate crimes” against the flag burner.
And as most FReepers on this thread pointed out, why is burning an American Flag not a hate crime ( against the country )?
I thought flags were “Just a piece of cloth”. Or does that only apply when someone burns the American flag?
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“This really should be a PROPERTY RIGHTS issue as John Ellis said.”
Yes. You are absolutely right on.
But I still say that Ellis’ motivation for this op-ed is to bow to the gay mafia. I doubt he would have taken the time to write this if the flag had been the Stars and Stripes.
Looks like a colored fellow, isn’t it racist to arrest him? The victimhood sympathy status list has become confusing lately.
> Theft. He stole it.
Well, if it wasn’t his, then of course it is a crime.
That flag is a symbol of HATE STRAIGHT, and needs burning.
Agree. But like homosexuals, they should keep it to themselves and out of our faces.
Burn somebody else's flag, get arrested.
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