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Man Charged with Hate Crime for Burning Gay Pride Flags in Harlem
PJ Media ^ | 07/11/2019 | John Ellis

Posted on 07/11/2019 9:09:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

To begin, I want to make crystal clear that I'm opposed to the burning of flags as a means of making a statement. It's childish, not to mention pointless. I'm even less of a fan of burning flags that don't belong to you. That's beyond pointless—it actually harms your cause and it is a crime. I support property rights, after all. That being said, charging someone with a hate crime for burning a flag is a bit much. But that's exactly what may happen to idiot arsonist Tyresse Singleton.

The New York City Police Department broke the news on Twitter that they had arrested Singleton for burning three gay pride flags flown outside of the Alibi Lounge, a gay bar in Harlem. To be more specific, the arrest was announced by the NYC Police Hate Crimes Task Force's Twitter page.

Look, arrest the idiot and throw the book at him. But elevating it to a hate crime takes away from actual hate crimes. Years ago, a gay friend of mine was a victim of gay-bashing. He spent a few days in the hospital. I'm sorry, but a few torched flags are not equal to someone taking a brick to the face.

I get that we live in overly-sensitive times where every single action requires being ramped up to an earth-shattering level of tragedy. And I get that political correctness requires the authorities to treat certain forms of vandalism as extra heinous. But, ask yourself, what do you think someone would be charged with if they burned the Betsy Ross flag proudly waving from your front porch?

If you guessed that the individual would be charged with a "hate crime," you'd be wrong. Never mind that the arsonist most likely would have been motivated by a hatred for you and your patriotism. In that scenario, though, there's a better chance that the person would earn a fat contract to help Nike sell their shoes made by slave labor. And there's an almost 100% chance that burning a Betsy Ross flag that doesn't belong to him would earn him the support and adulation of leftist heroes like Kamala Harris and AOC. It sure wouldn't have earned this statement from New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who, according to NBC News, said of the burning of the pride flags: "I am appalled by the burning of yet another pride flag outside an LGBTQ bar in Harlem. This act of hate is repugnant to our values of equality and inclusion, and we will not stand by and allow these cowardly acts to continue in New York."

Again, to be clear, I am thankful that the New York City Police have done their job and taken an idiot vandal off the streets. Tyresse Singleton deserved to be arrested and deserves to be charged with a series of crimes that correspond with his arson. What we don't need is to elevate every instance of stupidity to the level of terrorism.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: akadeblasio; alibilounge; billdeblasio; clintonnonnews; cnn; flagburning; gaypride; genderdysphoria; harlem; hatecrime; homosexualagenda; newyork; newyorkcity; twitter; tyressesingleton
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While “piss christ” is heralded as art???

I have no problem with burning the symbol of sodomy.


41 posted on 07/11/2019 9:57:15 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
...arsonist Tyresse Singleton...
Racial profiling, that's all that it is. :^)

42 posted on 07/11/2019 9:57:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SeekAndFind; NFHale; ZULU; null and void; bitt; vette6387; Tilted Irish Kilt; DarthVader; ...

What about the Marxist Left who burn the American flag? What were they charged with?


43 posted on 07/11/2019 10:02:43 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: gibsonguy

Exactly. We need to use Alinsky’s rules for radicals against the Left by insisting that burning Old Glory is a hate crime.


44 posted on 07/11/2019 10:09:05 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Exactly HOW does the State quantify ‘hate’ in a trial? What calibration is used to ensure said quantity?

Was it ‘dislike’? or full on ‘odium’??


45 posted on 07/11/2019 10:10:02 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why? People burn the US flag every day of the week. What’s so special about a gay flag?


46 posted on 07/11/2019 10:10:52 AM PDT by bgill
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To: SeekAndFind

Typical racist Dems.


47 posted on 07/11/2019 10:14:58 AM PDT by JerseyDvl ("If you're going through hell, keep going.")
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To: frank ballenger
Burning an American flag: Don’t worry. Take it easy. That’s protected free speech.

Burning gay flag: “Reading the charges against you will take all morning. Just duck your head down as you get into the back seat of the patrol car and you’ll be on your way to jail.”

Well, I think there was something about it being someone else's flag...
48 posted on 07/11/2019 10:19:36 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Little Ray

Okay.


49 posted on 07/11/2019 10:20:39 AM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we afought for theire finished.)
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To: glorgau

Theft. He stole it.


50 posted on 07/11/2019 10:23:41 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is better to be slapped with the Truth than to be kissed with a Lie.")
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To: SeekAndFind

This is John Ellis’ way of subtly kissing the lgbtq ring.

How many have torched Old Glory and walked away without incident?

Have not the courts already ruled burning the American flag is ‘free speech’?

Yet Ellis calls this a form of terrorism and gives the police an ‘atta boy!’?

Johnny’s not fooling everyone.


51 posted on 07/11/2019 10:29:43 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

RE: This is John Ellis’ way of subtly kissing the lgbtq ring. How many have torched Old Glory and walked away without incident?

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This really should be a PROPERTY RIGHTS issue as John Ellis said.

If the flag (gay pride or American) is OWNED by someone, you do not have the right to grab it and burn it.

What the author objects to is the topping on of “Hate crimes” against the flag burner.

And as most FReepers on this thread pointed out, why is burning an American Flag not a hate crime ( against the country )?


52 posted on 07/11/2019 10:35:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought flags were “Just a piece of cloth”. Or does that only apply when someone burns the American flag?


53 posted on 07/11/2019 10:38:07 AM PDT by Durbin
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


54 posted on 07/11/2019 10:38:46 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: SeekAndFind

“This really should be a PROPERTY RIGHTS issue as John Ellis said.”

Yes. You are absolutely right on.

But I still say that Ellis’ motivation for this op-ed is to bow to the gay mafia. I doubt he would have taken the time to write this if the flag had been the Stars and Stripes.


55 posted on 07/11/2019 10:49:52 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Looks like a colored fellow, isn’t it racist to arrest him? The victimhood sympathy status list has become confusing lately.


56 posted on 07/11/2019 10:56:51 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

> Theft. He stole it.

Well, if it wasn’t his, then of course it is a crime.


57 posted on 07/11/2019 11:03:09 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: SeekAndFind

That flag is a symbol of HATE STRAIGHT, and needs burning.


58 posted on 07/11/2019 11:04:49 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: elpadre
Although I don’t associate with “haters,” I believe they have a Constitutional right to hate. What say ye??

Agree. But like homosexuals, they should keep it to themselves and out of our faces.

59 posted on 07/11/2019 11:07:12 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Buy any flag, burn it at your discretion.

Burn somebody else's flag, get arrested.

60 posted on 07/11/2019 11:10:12 AM PDT by dead (Our next president is going to be sooooo boring.)
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