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1 posted on 06/10/2019 8:46:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 06/10/2019 8:47:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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The wise governor knew the cost of supporting would be very great for what would be losing law suits. He knew it would be possible that all of his states votes would be thrown out.


3 posted on 06/10/2019 8:50:10 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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I despise the national popular vote concept and think it must be unconstitutional.
However, they might be surprised at the outcome. 35 or 40 percent of those of states are repubs who don’t even bother to vote unless they care about some arcane local issue.

With popular vote, lots of Californians, New Yorkers and other such critters might suddenly have a reason to come out and pull the repub lever.


9 posted on 06/10/2019 9:00:56 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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I would love to see California, Hawaii, DC and the other blue states that have passed this measure be forced to cast their electoral votes for President Trump after he wins the popular vote over the has-been/never-will-be that the Democrats choose as their presidential standard-bearer in 2020.


10 posted on 06/10/2019 9:03:21 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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P4L


11 posted on 06/10/2019 9:05:11 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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Related:

Delaware, a province of California (Electoral College)

18 posted on 06/10/2019 9:48:14 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Not that I really believe that we still live under the rule of law anymore, but I don’t see how an elector (who is literally the person being selected when one casts a ballot for president) can be compelled by law to vote a particular way.


19 posted on 06/10/2019 9:54:04 AM PDT by jtal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle ....)
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Counties DO NOT want the Capitol City to change their vote.

That is big city voter fraud.

The Constitution states “Signed & Sealed” votes.
Only voter fraud can modify votes.

The InterCounty Compact overrides the InterState Compact, and it states Signed & Sealed & unchanged.


20 posted on 06/10/2019 10:05:11 AM PDT by TheNext (Diversity: Darker Replaces Lighter8)
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Thanks for posting!

This is what happens when LIEberal Democrats are in power; let this be fair warning to ALL AMERICANS!

A vote for ANY Democrat, whether it be in a local, state or federal election, is a vote against America!

America cannot survive a Democrat victory in 2020!

21 posted on 06/10/2019 10:33:22 AM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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23 posted on 06/10/2019 10:38:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Can I get a shout out for the person(s) who donated $2,000.00 from France? Thanks so much! Wow!)
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I think it’s inevitable that the blue rot is winning and that the GOP may never see another Republican win a national election.


24 posted on 06/10/2019 10:39:38 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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The ONLY way I see the NPV as constitutional is if the states in the NPV Compact took away the vote from their citizens. They could then award their electoral votes to the winner of the NPV.
OF COURSE, their citizens WOULD NOT participate in the NPV vote count. DEMs might not like it, but IT WOULD be constitutional.

Assuming the NPV in its current form was ever invoked, it would certainly end up before SCOTUS. The QUESTION is whether states can allow outside influences [such as other state’s votes] determine the award of their electoral college votes.
BECAUSE, in doing so the states dilute and debase their own citizens votes.

In order for the NPV to prevail at SCOTUS [as currently written], NPV proponents would have to win four [possibly five] arguments:

1. That the NPV DID NOT violate the Interstate Compact Clause of the United States Constitution [Article I, Section X, Clause III].

2. That when a state legislature vests the right to vote for President in its people, the NPV DID NOT USURP the equal weight accorded to each vote and the equal dignity owed to each voter [Bush v. Gore, 2000].

3. That having once granted the right to vote on equal terms, the NPV DID NOT value one person’s vote over that of another [Harper v. Virginia Bd. of Elections, 1966].

4. That once the franchise is granted to the electorate, the NPV DID NOT draw lines which are inconsistent with the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and that the right of suffrage WAS NOT denied by a debasement or dilution of the weight of a citizen’s vote just as effectively as by wholly prohibiting the free exercise of the franchise [Reynolds v. Sims, 1964].

5. IF SCOTUS were to rule that once the right to vote was granted to the citizens of a State, the votes were considered free speech, the NPV would have to prove it DID NOT violate the 1st Amendment.


27 posted on 06/10/2019 10:51:12 AM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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I assume that no state that is likely to vote Republican will join the Conspiracy so it will not make a difference.


29 posted on 06/10/2019 11:18:52 AM PDT by arthurus (vooob)
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Thank you for referencing that article SeekAndFind. As usual, please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

PATRIOTS WAKE UP!

First, since the individual sovereign states, not Congress, officially recognize political parties, how do the political parties, including Democratic and Republican, not violate the Founding States' prohibition on congressionally unauthorized compacts between the states?

Corrections, insights welcome.

Next, today's concern for the integrity of the Electoral College is a day late and a dollar short imo. As a consequence of most patriots today growing up with constitutionally undefined election primaries, we nostalgically accept that primaries are somehow constitutional.

But the reality is, in their lust to keep and exercise state powers that the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification feds have stolen from the states, the likewise corrupt political parties have long since trashed much of the Constitution's 12th Amendment procedures for Electoral College.

For example, in stark contrast to unconstitutional political party state compacts limiting voting choices for a electors to political party nominees, one part of the 12th Amendment (12A) shows that the Founding States gave state electors the power to vote for anybody that they want to for president and vice president.

Excerpted from the 12th Amendment: "The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President [emphasis added], and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice- President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; […]"

Also, in stark contrast to politically party winner-take-all state compacts for electoral votes, consider that another part of 12A shows that the Founding States effectively prohibited the states from making winner-take-all laws for electoral votes imo.

"The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice- President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate [emphasis added]; […]"

The remedy for unconstitutional, anti-constitutional republic, political party influence in federal elections…

Patriots need to elect a new patriot Congress in the 2020 elections that will not only promise to support PDJT's vision for MAGA, but will also promise to surrender state powers that the feds have been stealing from the states back to the states and start enforcing 12A.

And to make such changes permanent, patriots also need to support PDJT in leading the states states to repeal the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments.

Remember in November 2020!

MAGA!

AGAIN, PATRIOTS WAKE UP!

30 posted on 06/10/2019 11:21:28 AM PDT by Amendment10
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