Posted on 06/10/2019 2:33:19 AM PDT by Kaslin
Theres a debate going on inside conservatism between the insufferable sissies who insist that we Normals are morally obligated to submit to being crushed by the leftists who hate us and want us enslaved or dead, and actual conservatives. Maybe Im simplifying this intellectual dispute a bit wait, no Im not. You either want to defeat the liberal elite that despises us or you dont. Its those of us who seek to win versus the Never Trump losers, and theres no middle ground.
Win or lose. Pick one.
The Never Trumpers are willing, even eager, to lose, regardless of the consequences for you and me. They would thrive in defeat. After all, theres always a place for a slobberingly loyal conservativish opposition, right over there at the liberal elites kiddie table.
I say we should fight to win and preserve our liberty.
David French is the poster-scold for the Surrender Caucus, a fussy man who is always at the ready with some hitherto unknown conservative norm, rule or principle that boils down to you not being allowed to effectively resist the massive attack on your liberty and prosperity by our garbage elite. These conservative norms, rules and principles are pretty remarkable in that they only apply to limit our options and actions they never apply to protect us from our enemies.
I have my own conservative principle regarding conservative principles, and it goes like this: Any conservative principle that makes me poorer or less free is a pretty crappy conservative principle and Im not going to do it.
Basically, its a choice between Please clap and Ill sock you in the face.
Civility and decency is the common refrain within the French Fredocon Legion. Understand that the civility and decency requirement applies only to us, and it operates only to restrict our ability to accurately describe and aggressively fight our enemies. It does not apply to our betters conduct toward us. Look at their last three years of attacks on Donald Trump and we who support him super civil and super decent, right? My Twitter feed is an endless series of vicious tweets from libs and True Conservatives telling me what an awful, awful person I am for thinking that we should jam that same civility and decency right back down their collective throat.
French himself recently dubbed us the gutter right in a tweet, wherein he also described himself as a real man. Peak cringe aside, Im pretty sure gutter is not a term of civility or decency, but then the rules never apply to protect us, only to restrain us. Remember, you are morally obligated to lose for some reason. Anyway, this utter nonsense is why we should ignore the Priss Platoons rules and do whatever we have to do to protect our liberty and property.
Similarly, we are also morally obligated to submit to the loss of our rights. When Steven Crowder was demonetized by YouTube because he uttered words the elite disapproves of, I immediately began my countdown to the Lido Deck League validating it. I didnt have to wait long.
They have plenty of cheesy rationales for justifying the censorship of actual conservatives they disapprove of:
Oh, he says mean things!
Oh, its a private business!
Oh, well I never!
The excuses they give why its cool to gag us dont matter. The end result for actual conservatives is always the same. Its always okay to censor the people the Collaboration Cons disapprove of. Heres their thought process template:
If this is how you roll with conservative principles, count me out.
Now, to his credit, French has personally litigated for conservatives in free speech and religious liberty cases, yet while this legal fight is necessary it is not sufficient. Defending some bullied cake baker is fine, but all the Frenchies are asking the elite for on behalf of Normals is the little tiny dispensation of not being hassled in a small corner of their lives. Pleading for a pass on pro-gay marriage confections is nice, I guess, but thats marginal skirmishing that doesnt challenge the metastasizing liberal paradigm. The rest of us arent satisfied with the garbage liberal elite grudgingly letting us control our own cake decorating options. We want to burn the whole garbage liberal elite down.
Not the Never Trumpers. They are no threat to the elite because, at their hollow core, they support the existing power structure. Thats why they are so blind to the manifest corruption of the institutions that they are a part of and are therefore invested in. Thats why these saps were so easily suckered by the RUSSIA TREASON COLLUSION!!!! scam. And thats why Trump and those of us who support him terrify them because, unlike the Conservative, Inc., cabal, we have nothing to lose if the whole teetering edifice of our crummy ruling class collapses under the sheer weight of its lies and incompetence.
They dont want things to truly change, except around the margins a Christian gets to keep his assistant professorship at Gumbo State, slightly fewer babies get butchered because some minor abortion limitation is upheld. Thats all fine and good, but what they really want is just the status quo with a few bespoke tweaks. Thats why they embrace losing the big battles and demand that we do too. Thats why they were eager for Hillary to win. In the nightmare world of infanticide, corporate collectivism and SJW oppression that Felonia Milhous von Pantsuit would have ushered in, people like David French would still have a place, even if it is at their liberal masters heels.
But they have no place in the conservative future were going to build on the ashes of the liberal elite that we are going to destroy by any means necessary. We choose to win.
What does losing look like anyway? It looks like you being silenced by the liberal corporations, if not the government itself. It looks like taxpayer-funded abortion on demand until kindergarten. It looks like the borders thrown even opener, your guns confiscated and your church denied a license to operate if it isnt part of the creepy climate cult.
One of the less expected of Trumps accomplishment is exposing beyond debate that a sizeable number of Replubican pundits and politicians actively wanted to lose.
Ping! Everything Kurt says is spot on but just know, if we burn down the leftist monster in this country, it will be a war like no other. The leftists have plenty of useful idiot fodder to throw at us.
JoMa
Vichy French.
I have lots of ammo. Itll be OK.
I LOVE when Kurt fills in for that sissy Hugh Hewitt!
I agree with Kurts point, but I dont know why he would list silenced by liberal corporations as part of the problem here. If his freedom is defined by his ability to post videos on YouTube, then hes not a free man at all. In fact, hes a slave to YouTube.
Today they are called never-Trumpers, yesterday they were called RINO’s. Before that just plain Republicans. I recall the early Bush years just waiting and waiting and waiting for push back and it never came. Republicans would promise one thing to get a vote, then do the opposite and we’d all scratch our heads and wonder why.
What Trump did was get the MSM and never-Trumpers/RINOs out in the open and make it very clear they are all un-Amerian traitors.
Like it or not, social media is the modern-day public square and conservatives are being deliberately, systematically barred from it. It isn’t a trivial issue.
Restricting people from using youtube and other platforms would not be a big deal if there were real competition, but there is not. These big social media corporations are effectively censoring the conservative voices that the government won’t censor.
God I miss William Buckley.
L
Kurt Schlichter comes across as a lazy malcontent on this particular point.
These big social media corporations are effectively censoring the conservative voices that the government wont censor.
Theyre doing it at the behest of more than just a few former Government officials. Thats what makes it so completely unacceptable. The difference between this and the Nazi government demanding that private businesses refuse service to Jews is only by degree.
If they thought they could get away with it theyd be herding Trump supporters into box cars at gun point.
And you know it.
Crowder, Jones, and the like are the canaries in the coal mines. And we damned well better be paying attention.
L
See Post #12. It doesnt seem terribly conservative to be calling someone elses property a public square.
There is more involved than writing code. There is the matter of acquiring a sufficient number of servers and bandwidth to support such an operation. I’ve read estimates that setting up a social media company would cost in the billion dollar range. This is not exactly within reach of most basement dwelling programming gurus. Meanwhile, the social media giants happily conduct the censorship that the government currently won’t do.
In addition to censoring conservative speech, they launch campaigns to de-person people. For example, they have successfully pressured banks and credit card companies into dropping the accounts of conservative organizations.
The goal of the left here is to use our principles of freedom to marginalize conservatives and make it impossible for conservatives to live as conservatives, until the left takes power. Then, they will use the tools leftist governments have always used to ensure their grasp on power.
We can’t afford to stand back and let them get to this point because they are using the tools of freedom against us.
I do know it. In fact, prior to the 2016 election, I saw more than one Hillary advocate posting on forums that they were really looking forward to herding us into camps. I have no doubt that Hillary would have done that—and that a distressingly high proportion of her supporters would have seen nothing wrong with sending non-leftists to reeducation camps.
Not even at the behest of government, but of their own accord — almost completely Lefist — deciding what voices will be allowed. Too many conservatives are trivializing the very real effect of this pernicious attack on free speech.
and that a distressingly high proportion of her supporters would have seen nothing wrong with sending non-leftists to reeducation camps.
Yep. See my tag line.
L
If they call you “racist” you must submit, so says David French.
Heh. “Priss Platoon”, love it.
My personal favorite #NeverTrump line is, “He isn’t presidential.”
Followed by, “He needs to stop tweeting!”
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.