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Farage, Polish populists dash far-right hopes of grand EU alliance
France 24 ^ | 5 june 2019 | F24

Posted on 06/05/2019 12:48:36 PM PDT by Cronos

Far-right parties' hopes of forging a powerful new eurosceptic bloc in the European Parliament suffered a double blow on Wednesday when Poland's ruling nationalists and Britain's Brexit Party both said they would not join such a grouping.

Italy's far-right League was one of the biggest winners in last month's EU elections and its leader, Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini, has sought to persuade Europe's nationalist parties to set aside their differences and form a 10-party European Alliance for People and Nations in the new assembly.

Jaroslaw Kaczynski, leader of Poland's conservative ruling party Law and Justice (PiS), ruled out joining on account of the pro-Russian stance of Salvini, France's National Rally, led by Marine Le Pen, and the Alternative for Germany (AfD) party.

Nigel Farage's Brexit Party, which won 29 of Britain's 72 seats in the European Parliament, also said it would not join the putative new grouping, though it gave no reason. Britain is due to quit the EU on Oct. 31 but its lawmakers will join the European Parliament in July and stay until Brexit happens.

Expressing his scepticism about Salvini's plans, Kaczynski told Polish private Radio Wnet: "When it comes to Mr Salvini, here we have a problem that he wants to create a new group with formations that we aren't able to accept."

"This is a group called National Rally belonging to Ms Le Pen. It's also the Alternative for Germany," he said. "This is something that we cannot accept under any circumstances."

Disagreement over Russia

Le Pen's party, Germany's AfD and Salvini's League all have good relations with Russia, a stance that PiS, steeped in traditional Polish distrust of the Kremlin, does not share.

PiS, which espouses traditional Catholic values and resistance to what it sees as Russian expansionism in Ukraine and elsewhere, won 26 of 51 seats allotted to Poland in the European Parliament.

It is expected to remain in the European Conservatives and Reformists grouping in the assembly.

Salvini had hoped Europe's eurosceptic parties' shared desire to shape the bloc's future by returning more powers to member states and imposing further curbs on immigration would trump any concerns about Russian interference.

Overall, far-right parties did less well than expected in the EU election, particularly in Germany and the Netherlands.

Last week, Hungary's nationalist Prime Minister Viktor Orban also distanced his Fidesz party from Salvini's eurosceptic group as he tries to repair strained ties with the EU's mainstream centre-right parties.

Orban's chief of staff Gergely Gulyas said he did not see "much chance for co-operation on a party level or in a joint parliamentary group".

Orban, suspended from the centre-right European People's Party (EPP), has unexpectedly dropped contentious judicial reforms in an apparent gesture to appease mainstream EU allies.

(REUTERS)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: brexit; eu; euparliament; europe; farage; poland
The Polish ruling party is highly socially conservative - pro-traditional marriage, pro-life, pro-patriotism and economically leftist - lots of welfare for families.

They are very anti-Russia, while Marine Le Pen and Salvini are very pro-Russia

1 posted on 06/05/2019 12:48:36 PM PDT by Cronos
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Then they need to form a non-Salvini type bloc that isn’t pro-Russia but is instead Euro and Russia-skeptic but will still trade with both.


2 posted on 06/05/2019 12:59:21 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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They sit with the European Conservatives and Reformists,


3 posted on 06/05/2019 1:05:50 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama hated Assad as he wasn't a Muslim but an Alawite)
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You don’t need a multi-national bloc to fight for nationalism — you just need to walk away from multi-national blocs, and you’re left with nationalism. Each nation can be different — that’s the point.


4 posted on 06/05/2019 1:44:54 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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This also sounds more than acceptable to me.


5 posted on 06/05/2019 1:47:22 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

You do need the blocs for smaller countries. Imagine if Delaware had to go on its own completely.


6 posted on 06/05/2019 2:27:53 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama hated Assad as he wasn't a Muslim but an Alawite)
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Best to stay away from Russia.


7 posted on 06/05/2019 2:37:34 PM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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This makes total sense. These parties are NATIONALISTIC, not international. sheesh.


8 posted on 06/05/2019 2:43:35 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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Yes, scale matters. However, a sovereign nation cam make all sorts of ‘deals’ with other sovereign nations, without unduly sacrificing sovereignty. NATO, and USMCA are examples. The EU was fine, when it was content to be the European Common Market.

The USA, (and Canada, and Australia) are unions of otherwise sovereign states. These federal nations differ from the EU, in that they don’t have the extreme ‘democratic deficit’ that the EU has.

Britain and Poland can find all sorts of things to join forces, collaborate, or cooperate over — they don’t need to compromise their core beliefs, or cultural essence to do so.


9 posted on 06/05/2019 2:47:18 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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In general the EU tried to be more like Switzerland but failed and now it is a confederation like the Old Swiss Confederation.

This is not a federation like the USA, nor quite NATO, but in-between.


10 posted on 06/06/2019 2:24:13 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama hated Assad as he wasn't a Muslim but an Alawite)
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