Posted on 06/05/2019 11:00:21 AM PDT by RevelationDavid
Great update on current anti-ship missile’s… And how they basically make all naval platforms obsolete. Will it take a massacre of our forces before we “get it“…?
“Unlike Harpoon, LRASM fits in both the Mk. 41 vertical launch system silos of the Ticonderoga-class cruisers and Burke destroyers and the Mk. 57 silos on the new Zumwalt-class destroyers. This will allow individual ships to carry many more anti-ship missiles than ever before, although this will impact the number of other missiles, such as the SM-6 surface-to-air missile and ASROC anti-submarine rockets, in the ship’s overall inventory.
After decades of rapid innovation, the end of the Cold War and the subsequent Global War on Terror all but halted anti-ship missile development in the West. A focus on land operations in the Middle East and Central Asia sent Western navies struggling for relevance.
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“Unlike Harpoon, LRASM fits in both the Mk. 41 vertical launch system silos of the Ticonderoga-class cruisers and Burke destroyers and the Mk. 57 silos on the new Zumwalt-class destroyers. This will allow individual ships to carry many more anti-ship missiles than ever before, although this will impact the number of other missiles, such as the SM-6 surface-to-air missile and ASROC anti-submarine rockets, in the ship’s overall inventory.
After decades of rapid innovation, the end of the Cold War and the subsequent Global War on Terror all but halted anti-ship missile development in the West. A focus on land operations in the Middle East and Central Asia sent Western navies struggling for relevance.
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“...Will it take a massacre of our forces before we “get it“…?...”
Traditionally, yes.
Well it’s not like we didn’t know this was coming.
I have been saying for years that it was foolish to decommission our small oceanic bases.
We need to reestablish Wake, Midway, Johnson Atoll, Adak, and all of those others.
As a plus, they would be the perfect place to house every asylum applicant.
Not to mention these ship killers can be launched from just about any vessel afloat.
I wouldn’t say the age of big battleships is over.
Warfare is a series of ‘attack’ and “counter attack”
Better guns were countered by better armour.
In this case, detection of attack will eventually be countered with defense. Probably like reactive armour in tanks. Think of depth charges launched and will explode via proximity charges that ring around the capital ship.
Or some technology only the wiz kids are dreaming of in their labs..
Time will tell..
I just hope that we have such missiles also.
I remember being surprised when the Argentines launched an exocet missile and destroyed a British Frigate.
I think I read that they only had a handful of them or it would have been rough.
3000 folks massacred on 9/11/2001 did not make us any wiser.
It’s a quibble, but — Does the headline writer realize that no one actually has a battleship?
> Not to mention these ship killers can be launched from just about any vessel afloat. <
That’s one thing that concerns me. Iran, or North Korea, or China could put one of those things on a tramp freighter, along with a trained crew.
Could that freighter get close enough to a carrier battle group to get off a decent shot?
(Uh, wait a minute - where'd all the battleships go?)
Things like this are the game changers that win wars against much superior forces.
If a nation devises a battle plan based on something that can be eliminated, it can be in a serious world of hurt in short order.
Our military may know more than we think they know. They may even have more defenses than we think they have. It’s not like they post in the NYT every month what our full capabilities are.
The military has been testing this for over 10 years with B1’s from Dyess AFB, TX. These things can be launched at 20K feet and can hit a target the size of a football over 200 miles down range. They have already converted them to F-18’s and F-22’s besides the B1’s.
rwood
No kidding. Our slogan "never forget" was forgotten not long after jorge busho assured us iSlime was a religion of peace.
Now the mooseSlimes are our best buds and occupy Minnesota.
Cue China, they are way ahead of us on this.
It’s also a concern in the Hormuz Straits, with little room to maneuver. Portable anti-ship missile on shore could do some serious damage.
Use against our ships by a major power would trigger a nuclear war. By any other country, massive retaliation that would virtually eliminate the perpetrator.
“And how they basically make all naval platforms obsolete.”
Nonsense.
Utter nonsense.
The Pacific is over 7,000 miles wide. The Atlantic over 4,000.
Even the longest reaching missiles are 500 miles.
That’s a bunch of water out there and for anyone to suggest it makes naval platforms, even just SURFACE platforms, obsolete shows they do not know what they are talking about.
And it does not even account for defensive systems.
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