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Tesla has generated almost $2 billion in revenue from selling regulatory credits since 2010. Its home state of California has a mandate that requires carmakers to sell zero-emission vehicles, or ZEVs, in proportion to their share of the state’s auto market, which is the largest in the country.


What a freaking scam. Nothing is created here. Paper credits shuffled back and forth. Tesla purchasers get subsidized by the government, Tesla gets subsidized by the government and we the taxpayers get hosed. Pull the plug on the electric car subsidy feed trough.

1 posted on 06/03/2019 2:46:31 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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As I’ve said before, Musk’s biggest engineering feats have been separating the smokestack from the coal powered automobile, and separating the cash from the taxpayer’s wallet.


2 posted on 06/03/2019 2:48:35 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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I’m shocked!.........................


3 posted on 06/03/2019 2:50:45 PM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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Up in smoke.


4 posted on 06/03/2019 2:53:20 PM PDT by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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As I read it, it’s not just the Government directly subsidizing Tesla, but it is buyers of conventional vehicles that are essentially subsidizing Tesla. It would be interesting for the numbers to be fully transparent - how much of the $40k+ cost of a new truck goes to Tesla?


5 posted on 06/03/2019 2:53:46 PM PDT by LibertyOh
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“John DeLorean” financing?


6 posted on 06/03/2019 2:54:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Related: I know a guy who works for a company that brokers environmental credits. Here’s the way it works. Suppose you own a factory and you want to expand into 10 acres of adjacent wetlands.

Oh noes! Those wetlands are protected. So here’s what you do. You go to a broker. The broker finds someone - maybe a farmer - with 10 acres of land that qualify as wetlands. The farmer agrees to register his 10 acres as protected wetlands. You pay him for doing that.

Now you can expand your factory. It’s all perfectly legal.


7 posted on 06/03/2019 2:55:51 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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How is this new information? I knew years ago Musk made his money on carbon credits.


8 posted on 06/03/2019 2:59:12 PM PDT by Shadow44
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Hardly a secret.

Investors just didn’t care.

Now they do.


10 posted on 06/03/2019 3:01:50 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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What you said!


11 posted on 06/03/2019 3:04:15 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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So carbon offsets...carbon credits like what Gore and Obama and Hitlery wanted to pass.


16 posted on 06/03/2019 3:11:27 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (But the noble man makes noble plans, and by noble deeds they stand. Isaiah 32:8)
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Anyone with half a brain knows that Tesla is destined to go belly-up. People are buying into a pipe dream that will turn into a nightmare, sooner rather than later.


18 posted on 06/03/2019 3:13:31 PM PDT by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man.)
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“What a freaking scam. “

Yep.

5.56mm


19 posted on 06/03/2019 3:14:11 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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Yep. It’s all a scam and it’s “legal”


20 posted on 06/03/2019 3:23:41 PM PDT by Eagles6
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the democrats have patents, US PATENTS, on the
carbon credits. which is why....


22 posted on 06/03/2019 3:30:27 PM PDT by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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A new form of rent-seeking?


25 posted on 06/03/2019 3:38:51 PM PDT by tbw2
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Ah, yes, the #FakeScience of CO2 pollution. The one thing that cars emit that harms nothing.


34 posted on 06/03/2019 4:14:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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For years, Tesla Inc. has hauled in revenue by selling credits to other carmakers that needed to offset sales of polluting vehicles to U.S. consumers.

Until Ronald Reagan changed the tax code and lowered the tax rate from 78 to 28%, you could buy and sell federal tax credits.

I was in the tax leveraged lease business, and if a company was losing money but needed equipment, applying tax credits could reduce a monthly rate by as much as 20-27% with the tax benefits going to a third party that needed tax write offs.

As the leasing agent, we took ours, up front, and at the back end when we took ownership of the product.

The point is, selling fed credits is nothing new, nor is it illegal.

The same principle applies to carbon credits used for the global warming scam.

35 posted on 06/03/2019 4:16:09 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke all mooselimb terrorists, today.)
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clickbait. This has been well know for years.


36 posted on 06/03/2019 4:21:33 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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Bump


39 posted on 06/03/2019 4:37:59 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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It is like Ken Lay had a son.
Yep.
His Lobbyist buy the best booze and prettiest whores.


45 posted on 06/03/2019 6:27:01 PM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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