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Gov. Kay Ivey signs bill to ban abortion in Alabama
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Posted on 05/15/2019 3:43:51 PM PDT by SMGFan

Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey has signed the bill to make abortion a felony in Alabama, the governor’s office announced.

“To the bill’s many supporters, this legislation stands as a powerful testament to Alabamians’ deeply held belief that every life is precious and that every life is a sacred gift from God,” Ivey said in a press release.

The Senate gave final passage to the bill on Tuesday night, sending it to Ivey’s desk.

The bill says it will take effect in six months. But the sponsors said their intent was to trigger litigation that could lead to a challenge of Roe v. Wade at the U.S. Supreme Court.

ACLU of Alabama and Planned Parenthood have said they would sue to block the law.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: abortion; aclu; alabama; kayivey; plannedparenthood; prolife
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To: malach

The victims here will be all the women and girls who are raped or forced into incest and then hopefully some of them will have the $$ to go out of state for an abortion.

No, the victims would be the innocent babies that are murdered because some scumbag rapes someone or forces them into incest.

Rush made this point today - babies conceived by rape or incest aren’t any less innocent than babies that are not. So why should THEY just be routinely murdered?


21 posted on 05/15/2019 4:12:17 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: malach

Because those babies so deserve to die for the sins of one parent...


22 posted on 05/15/2019 4:14:51 PM PDT by rebel25 (GOD, Family, guns, and duck hunting, everything else is just noise.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Even a good portion of peanut gallery FReepers think that’s A-Ok!


23 posted on 05/15/2019 4:15:57 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Maybe more prayers will change today and tomorrow


24 posted on 05/15/2019 4:21:30 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Liberals, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

Oh my goodness!


25 posted on 05/15/2019 4:21:47 PM PDT by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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A fed judge is going to toss this within days unlike the NY law that legalized infanticide.


26 posted on 05/15/2019 4:24:49 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: DIRTYSECRET

SIMPLE. = Because in our opinion ABORTION, for any reason but to save the mother’s life, IS MURDER. = That’s WHY we should not wait.

Yours, Darla & TMN78247


27 posted on 05/15/2019 4:25:02 PM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: Pravious

‘babies conceived by rape or incest aren’t any less innocent than babies that are not.’

neither innocence nor guilt of the aborted has ever mattered to the pro-choice...


28 posted on 05/15/2019 4:27:23 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: malach
This law should have included rape and incest.

Years ago I read Ronald Reagan's book "Abortion and the conscience of a Nation." If I recall correctly, he mentioned his role as Governor of California when the state passed a law allowing abortion for the "Health" of the mother. It had been sold to him as meaning "if the woman's life or health are endangered."

What happened was that women would go to Doctors and say their "mental health" would be endangered if they didn't get one, and so through this loophole, the entire abortion industry drove.

If they included an exception for rape, every woman would claim rape. If they included an exception for incest, every woman would claim incest.

They might should have included a provision that "rape or incest" can be a reason if it is adjudicated by a Court, but leaving it open, it would be just another big loophole through which they would continue business as usual.

29 posted on 05/15/2019 4:28:32 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: SMGFan

Make planned parenthood drain money for lawsuits.


30 posted on 05/15/2019 4:29:08 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: malach

I believe the law was written so as to recognize the personhood of the unborn child (which wouldn’t vary due to circumstances of conception) and therefore challenge Roe vs. Wade.


31 posted on 05/15/2019 4:29:59 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: IrishBrigade
since the majority of abortions are in fact contracts between women and their doctors to engage in a fatality, this bill is nonsense...

It is legally and philosophically nonsense, but unfortunately it is political reality. No bill that punishes the woman could possibly get enacted into law.

Yes, Americans are fickle and sometimes misled by propaganda, people.

32 posted on 05/15/2019 4:30:54 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Bonemaker
If nothing else it pisses liberals off, puts them on the defensive, and keeps them out of Alabama...and Georgia too.

I fear it has put a further burden on President Trump in getting reelected. I think it will generate a much stronger will to fight on the part of liberals for the next Presidential election.

I think the bulk of the campaign money is on the Liberal side. Seemingly all the billionaires who involve themselves in politics tend to be Liberal.

On the other hand, I'm not sure they could hate Trump any worse than they do now, so maybe it won't make much difference to his election.

33 posted on 05/15/2019 4:33:51 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: malach
There have always been liars and people who game the system for as long as there have been people. To enact a law based on fear of someone lying or gaming the system is not right.

According to Reagan it isn't a fear. It actually happened. They did game the system.

The legal and medical system is supposed to take care of and catch at least some of these liars.

Not when the law gives them a huge loophole. Look at "medical" marijuana. States that enact these laws suddenly have hundreds of thousands of people that need marijuana as "medicine." It's just bullsh*t.

The US works on presumption of innocence but that does not mean that we have to be fools, just figure out better laws and followup.

I suggested a better law. Allow exceptions in case of rape or incest, but requiring judicial approval. Do you have a suggestion for a better law?

36 posted on 05/15/2019 4:39:12 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

‘Americans are fickle and sometimes misled by propaganda’

sometimes...?


37 posted on 05/15/2019 4:41:08 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade
sometimes...?

"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

Attributed to Abraham Lincoln. :)

38 posted on 05/15/2019 4:45:54 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: petitfour

The prison conditions are reprehensible


I quite agree. I just thought it was interesting that both stories just happened to run at the same time. The prison-conditions story has been around for a while, and I’m sure that Alabama is not the only state that has let the conditions in its prisons deteriorate. I’ve seen lots of stories that pretty much say that the inmates are just barely under control by the prison staff.

The other day I was talking to a guy who works in the Illinois prison system. I asked him what he thought of Bernie Sanders’s idea of letting inmates vote. He said what would happen would be a Chicago gang leader would move to Southern Illinois and get elected sheriff.


39 posted on 05/15/2019 4:53:17 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: malach

‘really draconian laws like this AL abortion one.’

you have a very odd view of ‘draconian’: I would have thought a law that permits abortion up to and subsequent to birth would be ‘draconian’ to the one actually suffering the consequences...


40 posted on 05/15/2019 4:57:10 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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