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Recent School Shootings Spark Question: Should Students Try To Thwart A Shooter?
WBUR ^ | May 9, 2019 | Jack Mitchell and Peter O'Dowd

Posted on 05/11/2019 1:07:17 PM PDT by DoodleBob

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To: DoodleBob

Best to teach them just to be passive and give up? So NOT the American Way. The courageous ones will never buy it, but they will see their leaders as Beta Males.


41 posted on 05/11/2019 2:25:53 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: DoodleBob
Zimring says intervention is always the least-preferable option.

Getting killed is a better option?????

42 posted on 05/11/2019 2:26:14 PM PDT by teacherwoes (Indoctrination is often done under the shadow of a ballot)
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To: Mount Athos
How about desire to do the right thing, to be willing to risk sacrificing yourself to save others...


That is almost Christian, theologically. We just can't have that, can we? /s

The very fact that some in the media have veiled criticism for the student's brave self sacrificing actions tells us how far we have fallen as a country.

43 posted on 05/11/2019 2:27:40 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ("The media is the enemy of the American people." Democrat Pat Caddell)
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To: AndyJackson
We are trying to breed that [adrenalin and testosterone] out of our sexually ambidextrous youth.

Quite right.

It is said the next war will never look the same as the most recent war. IMO, what is happening to our American culture is in essence the beginning of our Civil War II.

The obscenity is that it proceeds unrecognized as such and is being waged with the taxpayer's money.

44 posted on 05/11/2019 2:29:11 PM PDT by frog in a pot (The U.S. Constitution: "Use it or lose it.")
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To: teacherwoes
Zimring says intervention is always the least-preferable option.


Are we going to be led by Zimring's and wingnuts?
45 posted on 05/11/2019 2:30:45 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ("The media is the enemy of the American people." Democrat Pat Caddell)
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To: DoodleBob

Some men go to the sound of the shooting, some men run. May God bless those who go to the sound. They are the sheep dogs in a world full of wolves.


46 posted on 05/11/2019 2:31:29 PM PDT by lp boonie (Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment)
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To: DoodleBob

They should hide, like the Cowards of Broward, until either the shooter kills them or runs out of ammo killing their friends, DUH!!!


47 posted on 05/11/2019 2:41:34 PM PDT by null and void (You can't normalize the type of behavior the left is trying to normalize because it isn't normal.)
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To: DoodleBob

God-given natural right to life implies God-given duty to preserve and protect natural right to life. Use of force to preserve and protect natural rights is a perfect right.


48 posted on 05/11/2019 2:50:03 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: DoodleBob

Free the knife Rush the gun


49 posted on 05/11/2019 3:10:39 PM PDT by northislander
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To: Starstruck

From what I’ve read no jets were armed with missiles that day and the only way to bring the plane down would have been to ram it. Furthermore it’s unlikely any interceptor would have reached the hijacked plane in time.


50 posted on 05/11/2019 3:24:38 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: DoodleBob

Frank Zimring is a coward.


51 posted on 05/11/2019 3:29:03 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I grew up on a Marine Corps Air Station.

The pilots I knew would have rammed the airliner to save lives on the ground.

These are people from the same mold as a pilot who stayed with a striken aircraft to barely control it away from a school.

He could have punched out at altitude and let the plane fall where it may, but he was over a populated area and chose to fight it into an empty field.


52 posted on 05/11/2019 3:30:39 PM PDT by null and void (You can't normalize the type of behavior the left is trying to normalize because it isn't normal.)
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To: null and void

I’m sure one would have if faced with the choice of that or nothing. I simply posted that the plane would not have been shot down. So my intent was to not diminish the sacrifice of the passengers of flight 93. No insult of the military pilots that day was intended.


53 posted on 05/11/2019 3:48:14 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: DoodleBob

This is between a rock and a hard place. School administrators don’t ever want to tell students they should sacrifice themselves. That’s asking for a lawsuit in today’s crazy society.

But a good self-sacrificing Scout (in the old, sane sense) will usually get publicly lauded yet, even if posthumously.


54 posted on 05/11/2019 3:59:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (May Jesus Christ be praised.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

No offense taken. Just providing insight on the character of those who serve.


55 posted on 05/11/2019 4:20:55 PM PDT by null and void (You can't normalize the type of behavior the left is trying to normalize because it isn't normal.)
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To: DoodleBob

Most certainly yes. Every class I had for the last 15 years I would instruct them on how to deal with an active shooter that entered our class. I attacked first and then Boys Follow with our 10 lb textbooks or chairs whatever they can get ahold of as a weapon and everyone else joins in. Overwhelm the shooter. I would explain to them the foolishness of cowering in a corner and waiting to die.


56 posted on 05/11/2019 4:20:59 PM PDT by Maranatha7757
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To: DoodleBob

Depends if they want to live or not.


57 posted on 05/11/2019 4:25:13 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: DoodleBob

No, the correct response is to huddle and quiver under your desk in a fetal position while waiting to be murdered. Shouldn’t every student behave that way?

What a steaming pantload article.


58 posted on 05/11/2019 4:48:38 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Spok

“...any conduct that even approaches virtuous”...or heroic, brave, selfless, determined, full of integrity, guts, sacrificial for your classmates...you name it. Name a single Virtue and the leftist kooks will be against it. They should all be docile and wait for the all-powerful holy government to show up and save them.

This creep makes me sick.


59 posted on 05/11/2019 4:52:16 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: IronJack
How about a group hug?

Before or after the Kum-by-ya sing-along?

60 posted on 05/11/2019 5:00:37 PM PDT by lightman (Byzantine Troparia: The "praise choruses" of antiquity.)
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