Posted on 05/10/2019 1:01:58 PM PDT by goldstategop
But something has happened that could change that: President Donald Trump may have just taken Ohio off the table for 2020.
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Without some reforms in voter fraud and vote counter fraud, no state is a lock.
I’m in OHIO and yes, Ohio is off the table for the Dems.
Democrats are chasing Russia while Trump is bringing back American jobs.
And Democrats showed some of their ability to cheat in 2018. They will ramp it up further in 2020, as they have gotten away with it.
Trump won it by ten points in 2016. It was one of the reddest states enroute to his WH win.
ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID!
No Democrat, (short of a complete economic collapse) has ANY shot at the White House...
PA, OH, WI and MI are off the table, anyone telling you otherwise is LYING to you... and the reality is, don’t be surprised if you see MN go Red in Nov 2020 as well.
The only one of the midwest states Trump won in 16, that Dems MIGHT have an outside shot of flipping, would be MI... that’s it, and reality is, Trump is more likely to flip MN in 2020 than the Dems are to flip MI.
The Democrats painted themselves into a corner, they are geographically locked in... and their boogieman nonsense of Trump “wrecking” the economy in 2016... has blown up in their faces... Folks who had abandoned the Democrats up here, but weren’t sold on Trump in 16 and stayed home will have no qualms showing up and voting for him in 20.
Folks telling you that Trump is under threat in this region because of the “low” margin win in 2016, don’t have the foggiest clue what they are talking about. They don’t understand exactly HOW and WHY Trump won in 16.
Here’s the thing up here, that no one in establishment politics, on the right and left seems willing to grasp. Democrats here, are not coastal democrats... Yes, you do have the identity politic democrats, AA, Homosexuals, and the Educational/Socialist Complex... But the majority of Democrats here, are not democrats because they hate America, or hate Liberty or hate Capitalism..... They Love their country and just want a fair shake...
They are Democrats because of historical union issues... Their parents/grandparents/etc were Laborers, and way back when the Democrats helped labor. So they were Democrats because their families were... as the party went whackier and whackier, they didn’t start voting Republican... they just stayed home... because honestly the GOP never gave them a reason to vote for them.
TRUMP DID. He drew upon those disenfranchised Democrats, and said, I hear you.. I see what globalist policies have done to your towns, I see what Opioids have done to your families... Its not acceptable, it shouldn’t be happening and I am going to make sure America Comes First....
The Dems fear mongered, because that was all they had... And Trump didn’t get ALL of those disenfranchised historic Dems... not even close.. BUT he got a LOT of them in 16, and in 20, now that he has a track record and delivered consistently to show he meant what he said, you better believe he’s going to get a LOT LOT MORE OF THEM.
Trump won in 2016 because he got more VOTES FOR PRESIDENT in these states than ANY Republican in History.... and in 2020, he’s going to blow the lid off of his 2016 numbers... The Dems do not stand a chance.
Every boogie man thing they said about Trump, particularly around the economy was shown to be abjectly WRONG... They are seeing their towns coming back, jobs coming back, wages rising, etc... The Dems don’t have anything to counter reality with... they can only offer red meat to their choir, and that won’t get them jack.
Thanks to McCain, AZ is probably on the table.
OH was NEVER on the table in 16, nor was NC, or IA or any of the other “swing” states by election night 2016, the ONLY “swing” state that was in play was FL, and odds of Hillary winning it were well under 50%.
Anyone who had looked at the early voting KNEW this.... yet they still thought Hillary was the lock because NO ONE could believe Trump would take any of PA, WI or MI... which was BEYOND STUPID of them.
If those states Held, even if Trump took every “swing” state, Hillary wins with 272.... and the powers that be refused to even contemplate the reality that was coming.
Trump had laid his battle plan out for victory in his VERY FIRST SPEECH... and it was clear, his plan was going to be RIGHT UP THE UPPER MIDWEST... to anyone from this area... it was clear as crystal what his plan was... and he executed it.
The Coastal Elites had no idea what was going on on the ground here... and how much pent of disgust and anger existed here against the entire political establishment who had pretty much forgotten them... and took them for granted....
Yes Hillary’s campaign was terrible.. and tone deaf... but no Democrat was winning with Trump running on Immigration and Free Trade... those 2 issues, ensured his victory.
Trump telling the blue collar working in place like PA, MI and WI, yes, you are getting screwed, but they don’t care, because they are still getting fat... its terrible and I won’t let it happen any more... We are going to fix this... And what’s Hillary doing when someone questions her about jobs here? Oh we’ll offer you job training... Really? Really Hillary? TRAINING FOR WHAT? THERE ARE NO JOBS TO BE HAD! Trained in a Green Job to install Solar Panels, no one wants, or can even AFFORD in SMALL TOWN AMERICA???
You tell me, who’s going to win?
No, Trump should not be complacent, and I am sure he will not, but there is ZERO chance, short of an economic collapse before next November that ANY Democrat is going to win the states Trump took here in 16.
I don’t think Ohio is a Trump lock.
Democrats will turn out their base in Cincy, Cleveland and Columbus-—those voters did not turn out for Hillary in 2016.
What do they have to offer? Russia? I hope they run on it in 2020.
“Some” ability?? Democrat voting fraud is legendary, at least as far back as the 1960s the rule of thumb as I heard it, was any republican has to make up a million votes nationally just to breal even.
In fact, the republicans signed some long term agreement in the 1980s agreement that only recently expired, where they swearsie promised not to sue in cases of obvious voting fraud.
Leftists don’t care about anything except the raw acquisition of power, and Democrats are anything but democratic. The recent push for policies where 16 year olds vote, terrorists in prison, illegal aliens, foreign nationals, college students voting three times a day et al, it is obvious, or should be obvious to anyone. Personally I believe voting fraud should be a capital offense.
Need Pennsylvania, Florida and South Carolina again.
Then it is over...
That’s because they didn’t like Mrs. Clinton. What happens if they like President Trump?
If nothing else, Donald Trump has exposed the leftists for the total schittstains they really are. I dunno, maybe they were OK when guys like Humphry or Moynihan were around, but that was a long time ago, and they’re all dead.
I’m in Az, AZ is not on the table. NV is though.
McSally let the Dems steal the senate race in Arizona because she knew she would be appointed to the other seat.
I knew it smelled when the media said both lib candidates were so great, “Why can’t we have them both?”
They want everyone to move to the large cities, use public transportation, pay high taxes, live under the thumb of minorities, who are the hired soldiers for our feudal overlords. When people live away from the cities, they become more self-reliant and anti-government, they refuse to become cogs in the wheel, they remain bitter clingers to God and guns, they don’t just turn their children over to the godless PSS, and we can‘t have that.
Also, they have got to get cracking on suppressing right wing voices in the media, and in the pulpit. “Bible? What Bible? We need to ban that book.”
Sorry but you are in delusion land. Yes Hillary underperformed in OH bit Trump Overperformed. He would have beat Obama in 2012 with the numbers he got and he will get far more than Obama did in 2008 in 2020.
Please see post 7.
I am so tired of people who clearly don’t know jack about this region telling everyone chicken little stories that Trump is vulnerable here. All you are displaying is the fact you A) don’t know this region well, if at all and B) that you don’t remotely understand how and why Trump won here in the first place.
OH is not in play, PA will not be in Play, WI will not be in Play. MI will not be in play.. and want to know something else, odds are on Trumps side he’ s going to flip MN.
Please stop it with the chicken little nonsense.
‘Need Pennsylvania, Florida and South Carolina again.’
SC is a red lock, and FL most likely...PA, another thing altogether, and MI as well...
‘Please stop it with the chicken little nonsense.’
what’s nonsensical is you thinking swing state elections are a lock a year and a half out...
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