Posted on 05/09/2019 2:22:34 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
The Alabama Senate delayed until next week a vote on a bill to ban abortion after an uproar over a key amendment.
The Senate abruptly removed a rape and incest exception from the bill without allowing a roll call vote on that decision.
The move shocked Senate Minority Leader Bobby Singleton, D-Greensboro, who had just said at the Senate mic that he wanted a roll call vote on every question concerning the abortion bill.
Singleton and other Democratic senators strongly objected to Lt. Gov. Will Ainsworth, who presides over the Senate, for his quick gavel on tabling the rape and incest amendment on a voice vote, meaning there is no recorded vote.
Ainsworth said he followed Senate rules.
As that disagreement simmered, Senate President Pro Tem Del Marsh, R-Anniston, moved to delay a vote on the abortion bill until next week.
“We can come back in here on Tuesday and have extended debate and make that final decision," Marsh said.
(Excerpt) Read more at al.com ...
But as always there are two opposing sides to the pro-life argument.
1. Take the hard ball approach. Why allow for the taking of a human life just because the baby has a rapist as a father.
or
2. Allow murder for rape and incest exceptions. After all, this will reduce the number of abortions. We can't eliminate all of them, right? So fewer is better than more.
Fascinating what politicians will go to the mat fornisntnit?
They come for the guns and there’s no outrage.
They nationalize healthcare and dictate control over our health and bodies and there’s no outrage
They decide to stop infanticide and everyone loses their mind.
Well said! It’s insanity!
If they do this they better damn well also strip the rapist and his family of ALL parental rights. It would be crap to force a victim to have a shared custody with a kid.
Why punish the kid with death for the crime of his father?
I said the rapist and his family should have zero parental rights. How is that punishing a kid?
Heard sponsor said goal was to overturn Roe v Wade nationwide
https://www.al.com/news/2019/05/alabama-abortion-ban-to-get-key-committee-vote-today.html
Rep. Terri Collins, R-Decatur, the sponsor, urged the committee not to add amendments, saying the original bill would provide the clearest challenge to Roe v. Wade on the issue of right to life of the unborn. The bill already included an exception to allow abortions in cases of serious health risks to the mother. Collins opposed adding the exception for rape and incest.
Execute the rapist, as we used to do before the Supreme Court interfered, but let his innocent child live.
I’m for it.
Is that a bad thing?
It has my vote.
Are the 21+ Democrats for Prez ready to make Roe #1 issue in 2020?
But I have read that are people who make a lot of money from murdered unborn babies. And I have been told that if you want make someone mad, hit them in their pocked book. And that the kicked dog yelps the loudest. So end abortion upon demand and see who yelps.
People are victimized all the time and have to, "deal with it." People lose limbs to drunk drivers and spend the rest of their lives with a stump and/or prosthesis. People get hit in the head in a bar fight and are blinded for the rest of their lives. In a perfect world these thing would not happen.
I'm in no way diminishing the trauma of rape, and certainly there are psychological injuries that can linger for years if not a lifetime. An unwanted pregnancy from a rape is no doubt a life-altering event for the mother. An abortion is no doubt a life-altering (ending) event for the child.
I don't see how compounding one innocent person's rape with another innocent person's homicide makes anything better.
Make adoption easier and hang the rapist.
I’m on the fence.
I think if I were in the Alabama legislature I could vote for the bill, with or without the amendment.
Yes, to achieve things via politics - not the same as winning, socially, evangelically, the personal morality agenda against abortion, we sometimes have to pick and choose the battles, so we accomplish nothing.
If the core bill is to pass - a good thing, it might (might?, I don’t know) need the amendment included; it might lose too much support without it.
On the moral argument it’s fine to say the bill should remain “pure”, but politically if that is not really possible then is it O.K. to achieve no change in the law at all?
I am on the fence.
I moved to Alabama about 20 years ago for a job. I have never regretted it. Its one of the few remaining free states where a patriotic American can live. If we can just keep outsiders from interfering with our elections (such as happened to Roy Moore) we will be Okay. If you are looking for a god fearing and American loving place to move to Alabama is a good choice. If you are a Kalifornia nutbag looking to screw up our state then stay the hell out.
I lived there for 3 years as a kid. My dad was in the USAF for 24 years and was stationed at Craig AFB in the mid 50s...which I’m sure was an interesting time to be there. I learned to talk during those years and had the cutest southern accent...which I quickly lost when we moved to England. But the best perk about my living there is I can say “Roll Tide” as a true Alabamian, lol.
PRO LIFE No exceptions.
The baby is not at fault for his or her mother being raped.
Incest? Again, the baby is not at fault for his or her mother having sex, willingly or not, with a family member. One generation of incest is not a gene issue.
Life of the mother. NEVER an issue.
Health of the mother, just a scam. A loophole to allow abortions to continue.
The “BABY”, yes it is an individual baby human, with it’s own DNA. The baby is NOT part of the woman’s body. PERIOD!
So, YES, NO EXCEPTIONS!
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