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1 posted on 05/05/2019 7:27:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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Somebody’s got some ‘splainin’ to do.


2 posted on 05/05/2019 7:28:46 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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This is going to end up being the most expensive “cost savings” in the history of Boeing.


3 posted on 05/05/2019 7:29:28 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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Clean the sewers and ready the barges...Wall Street is about to take a DUMP!


4 posted on 05/05/2019 7:37:19 PM PDT by lightman (Byzantine Troparia: The "praise choruses" of antiquity.)
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A good friend of mine an ex Air Force Pilot and civilian pilot flew 737s 25 years for Southwest. He was not a 737 Max captain but flew the earlier models. He is an engineer. He explained it in very simple terms.

Computer 2
Pilots 0


7 posted on 05/05/2019 8:05:48 PM PDT by cpdiii ( canecutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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The angle of attack (AOA) disagree alert only worked on an aircraft if the airline had purchased an additional, optional feature, known as the AOA indicator, Boeing said.

The AOA indicator lets pilots know if one of the AOA sensors is not working, while the disagree alert shows if the sensors contradict each other.


My gosh, I cannot believe what I am reading. I guess I didn't purchase the unbelievable yarn filter for my laptop!
12 posted on 05/05/2019 8:44:37 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ("The media is the enemy of the American people." Democrat Pat Caddell)
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When the AoA sensor fluctuates from 11 degrees to 75 degrees in less than 3/4 second, anybody up front should immediately KNOW that was a faulty sensor. You don't need a "Disagree Alert" alarm to tell you the left AoA sensor is faulty, probably from a bird strike.


17 posted on 05/05/2019 9:42:40 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Mentour Pilot on You Tube has some good discussions on the MAX aircraft and MCAS.

MAX, as opposed to other Boeing designs, needs MCAS because of the size and position of its engines. It would be a lot easier with MAX to hit the throttle as an attempt to get out of a stall and pitch the aircraft into a worse stall, than with other Boeing craft.

But suppose MCAS fails. Now what.


19 posted on 05/05/2019 10:37:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (May Jesus Christ be praised.)
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Boeing’s 737 MAX’s REAL problem.

“To handle a longer fuselage and more passengers, Boeing added larger, more powerful engines, but that required it to reposition them to maintain ground clearance. As a result, the 737 can pitch up under certain circumstances. Software, known as the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System, was added to counteract that tendency.”

“But some aspects of the legacy 737 design are vintage headaches, such as the ground clearance designed to allow a staircase that’s now obsolete.” (”the Boeing 737-100 had folding metal stairs attached to the fuselage that passengers climbed to board before airports had jetways. “)

https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-fi-boeing-max-design-20190315-story.html

Repositioning of the engines is a fatal redesign flaw. One they can’t take back. Everything they do after that are attempts at mitigating their fatal mistake.

Discussion in Boeing boardroom:

“What is the cause of this dangerous pitching up problem and how do we fix it?”

“The problem is we made the engines too big and moved them too far forward.”

“Well we can’t do anything about that NOW, what else can we do?”


25 posted on 05/06/2019 4:44:55 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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SINCE this is from CNN, it must be assumed some error in reporting occurred, that the entire story was manufactured from the tiniest, misunderstood morsel of truth ...


30 posted on 05/06/2019 6:43:43 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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The AOA indicator lets pilots know if one of the AOA sensors is not working, while the disagree alert shows if the sensors contradict each other.

Three authors of this article, and not one of them can get a simple detail right.

The AoA Indicator lets the pilots know the angle of attack of the aircraft, as displayed on their Flight Display.

Asshats.

32 posted on 05/06/2019 7:42:46 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Sales guy: Let’s offer this critical information at a upgrade price and bury the details on how to recover the airplane in the manual as well.


35 posted on 05/06/2019 7:57:19 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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