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On Stephen Moore’s ‘Brainiac’ Immigrants [H1-B]
National Review ^ | April 25, 2019 | Jason Richwine

Posted on 04/26/2019 6:27:42 AM PDT by C19fan

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I work with H1-B all the time. None of them are "Brainiacs". At best they can take a pr-existing process and put it into production. Very often I have to fix their incompetent work if they are asked to do something original. They are cheap labor.
1 posted on 04/26/2019 6:27:42 AM PDT by C19fan
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Sad. At least most Americans can do the same thing! Our system is broken, probably beyond repair simply because of party politics. America be damned.


2 posted on 04/26/2019 6:30:40 AM PDT by vpintheak (Stop making stupid people famous!)
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I get calls all the time from Tech contract houses seeing if I want to work for them for little more than minimum wage.
This is how they get around the law.

No one wants to work as a Contractor for a 80% pay cut so this justifies more H1b.
H1b’s destroyed Intel’s well known quality and delivery.
Executive Staff did it to themselves.


3 posted on 04/26/2019 6:32:56 AM PDT by Zathras
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Agreed.

Maybe when this program was first conceived we were skimming the “braniacs” from other countries. Certainly not the case today.

Some of the ones you speak with are so dim you wonder how they ever managed to qualify in the first place.


4 posted on 04/26/2019 6:33:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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H1B are to skilled workers, what Illegals are to unskilled... They aren’t “Brainiacs, and most are sub par to American Educated... There are NO shortage of native born software engineers, which is what most H1B’s are... they are hired because they are cheaper, and the people that hire them know they basically own them because they sponsor their visa...

ITS A SCAM... and it needs ENDED.


5 posted on 04/26/2019 6:35:17 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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The situation you describe is precisely WHY socialists are popping-up faster than dandelions in this country. You can only pee in the pool for so long before everyone says “Uck!” and walks away.


6 posted on 04/26/2019 6:35:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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“the firms that use these visas must affirm that they were not able to find comparably skilled American workers to do the jobs.”

The great lie.

Anyone who perpetuates it is a traitor to the American people. And should be tried and hung by the neck until dead.

No matter their station, office or party.


7 posted on 04/26/2019 6:35:46 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Some of the ones you speak with are so dim you wonder how they ever managed to qualify in the first place.

And lazy. Not lazy in a good way such as "I automated these processes in order to minimize the manual touch points." Lazy as in:

"We did not know where the data was so we did nothing for a week."

"Did you ask anybody which server the data resides on?"

"No."

8 posted on 04/26/2019 6:39:35 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (“Individual liberty and freedom are not outmoded concepts.”)
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None of them are "Brainiacs". They are cheap labor.

H1-B's are to IT and other white collar jobs what illegals and migrant workers are to agricultural labor and construction: a convenient way for businesses to lower labor costs so that those jobs become unappealing to Americans - thereby "justifying" more H1-B's and migrant workers. Then those who brought in these workers to cheapen the cost of labor gloat at their self-fulfilling prophecy about "work Americans won't do."

It's good to see Jason Richwine contributing to National Review. NR is mostly garbage these days (Libertarians and neocons like Kevin Williamson, David French, Jonah Goldberg, Rich Lowry), but Richwine has interesting things to say. Several years ago, Richwine was fired by the Heritage Foundation for stating a politically incorrect fact - i.e. that the average IQ among immigrants from Mexico and Central America is in the 80's.

9 posted on 04/26/2019 6:40:20 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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For 14 years, I was the equivalent of an H1-B in Japan. The company was required to pay me AT LEAST a 10% wage premium over the going salary in the industry.

Eventually, I became too much like a local Japanese worker and wasn't worth the premium anymore so they were required to move me back to the USA as part of my separation package.

With the 10% premium rule, they don't have a problem with companies cheating or holding down local wages. In fact, for the most part, I was welcomed because more foreign workers = higher wages = more Japanese getting trained in the same skillset.

10 posted on 04/26/2019 6:44:11 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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Of course it's a lie - as is the lie that Americans are unwilling to work construction or farm jobs. What those who say this mean is that they won't do these jobs for Third World wages.

Stephen Moore might be OK for the Federal Reserve board, but as the founder of the Club for Growth, but I wouldn't let him anywhere near any policy-making decisions unrelated to interest rates. He's a Koch Brothers-type libertarian, his Club for Growth is all in for open borders immigration, amnesty for illegals, and zero tariffs.

11 posted on 04/26/2019 6:44:54 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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Is it really fair to other countries to take away professionals who often received a free education in their homelands? While US citizens are badgered into college plans that put them in impossible debt? And CEOs and other execs rake in reprehensible profits?

It's not sustainable. Invasive species always win out.

12 posted on 04/26/2019 6:44:57 AM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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Is it really fair to other countries to take away professionals who often received a free education in their homelands? While US citizens are badgered into college plans that put them in impossible debt?

There is a well-known story here in town of a local engineering company where a fistfight broke out in the office when staff engineers who went into their eyeballs in debt on a Bachelors Degree were given a new H1B colleague who had gotten his Masters essentially for free in his home country.


13 posted on 04/26/2019 6:58:50 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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"We did not know where the data was so we did nothing for a week." "Did you ask anybody which server the data resides on?" "No."

I don't think that's laziness so much as a cultural thing having to do with India's caste system. It teaches you never to speak-up out of turn. And as a result many alarms which need to be raised never get raised.


14 posted on 04/26/2019 7:00:28 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Stephen Moore writes that "the firms that use these visas must affirm that they were not able to find comparably skilled American workers to do the jobs." That claim is generally false. Most firms are not even required to advertise the position before applying for an H-1B worker. (Recruiting Americans prior to applying for an H-1B is required only for employers deemed “H-1B dependent” or "willful violators.") Moore’s piece has remained uncorrected on the Dallas News site for six days and counting.

I've taken some grief here from Freepers when I suggest Moore is not a good choice for the Federal Reserve board, but this sort of thing illustrates his flaw perfectly. He's a political advisor first and foremost, which means he has published a number of things over the years that were done for the purpose of political advocacy but do not stand up to factual scrutiny.

I think he's a smart guy but some of the things he's written really rub me the wrong way.

15 posted on 04/26/2019 7:02:53 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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Stephen Moore and John Tamny, who writes a lot at Real Clear and appears on cable, are lackeys of the Chamber of Commerce.


16 posted on 04/26/2019 7:04:18 AM PDT by C19fan
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... when staff engineers who went into their eyeballs in debt on a Bachelors Degree were given a new H1B colleague who had gotten his Masters essentially for free in his home country.

This is an interesting quandary because it explains one big reason why the H1B immigrant is cheaper. A company that hires a U.S.-educated professional has to pay him enough to cover the cost of a ridiculously expensive college education, which puts the American professional at a disadvantage in any "universal" career like a STEM field where the expertise doesn't change from one country to the next.

17 posted on 04/26/2019 7:06:58 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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Most I’ve worked with were complete morons.


18 posted on 04/26/2019 7:07:54 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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Moore co-wrote “Fueling Freedom” (2016). An interesting read.


19 posted on 04/26/2019 7:08:08 AM PDT by onedoug
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Yes, and it also explains why Millenials will flock to line-up behind Fauxahontas’ proposal for “free” college.


20 posted on 04/26/2019 7:09:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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