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Justice Sotomayor: Hispanics have 'rational fear' of Trump administration citizenship question
The Washington Times ^ | April 23, 2018 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 04/23/2019 9:40:57 AM PDT by jazusamo

Justice Sonia Sotomayor said Tuesday that Hispanics may have a “rational fear” of their answers to the census being misused by the Trump administration, as she argued against including a question about citizenship in the 2020 count.

The Supreme Court heard oral argument on the thorny question, with the liberal justices saying they feared millions of people — Hispanics in particular — will toss the forms into the trash rather than fill them out, distorting the entire 2020 count.

“Are you sure they don’t have a rational fear?” Justice Sotomayor challenged the government’s lawyer.

The government said the question has been asked before, provides important information and besides, refusing to answer the census is illegal, so catering to the potential for Americans’ to take illegal action is fraught with its own perils.

Besides, there are ways to go out and find people who refused to fill out their forms, thus ensuring the government can get the information it needs — including citizenship information, said Noel Francisco, the U.S. solicitor general, arguing the case for President Trump and the administration.

He said the citizenship data is worth it even if it means more hassle and the potential for fewer responses.

“There’s always going to be a tradeoff,” he told the court.

A citizenship question was standard on the full census for more than 100 years, then was shunted to the so-called “long form” census along with a bunch of other demographic and sociological questions in 1960. It’s still asked now on the American Community Survey, another census survey, though it’s not part of the questionnaire that goes to everyone.

That history complicates the argument over adding it back in.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020census; aliens; citizenship; hispanics; illegalaliens; scotus; scotus2020census; sotomayor
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To: jazusamo
"...Justice Sonia Sotomayor said Tuesday that Hispanics may have a “rational fear” of their answers to the census being misused by the Trump administration..."

Did she specify in what way? Because the question is a pretty straightforward one:

You either ARE a citizen, or you are NOT. It is very black and white, very straightforward.

If you read it, it says: "...the liberal justices saying they feared millions of people — Hispanics in particular — will toss the forms into the trash rather than fill them out, distorting the entire 2020 count..."

Why? Why would millions of American citizens refuse to fill them out and toss them in the trash? Hmm?

There is someone who is afraid, very afraid of that question on the census, and it isn't a hispanic citizen.

It is the Democrat Party.

101 posted on 04/23/2019 1:49:13 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: Can't control their emotions. Can't control their actions. Deny them control of anything.)
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To: jazusamo
Justice Sonia Sotomayor said Tuesday that Hispanics may have a “rational fear” of their answers to the census being misused by the Trump administration...

Hey Wise Latina, what does "misused" mean?

102 posted on 04/23/2019 1:51:35 PM PDT by gogeo (Liberal politics and mental instability; coincidence, correlation, or causation?)
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To: rlmorel
It is the Democrat Party.

In my view you're right on!

103 posted on 04/23/2019 1:53:45 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have You Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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To: HamiltonJay; Captain Peter Blood

Being a Type 1 diabetic is in and of itself not the major issue.

It is that she is apparently a “fragile” Type 1 diabetic, and has had ED visits related to that according to news accounts I had read in the past.

That is not a good indicator.


104 posted on 04/23/2019 1:54:35 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: Can't control their emotions. Can't control their actions. Deny them control of anything.)
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To: jazusamo

You know it!


105 posted on 04/23/2019 1:55:36 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: Can't control their emotions. Can't control their actions. Deny them control of anything.)
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To: jazusamo

Just the illegal ones, Sort-of-mayor. Just the illegal ones.


106 posted on 04/23/2019 2:01:24 PM PDT by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA!)
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To: jazusamo

...Justice Sonia Sotomayor said Tuesday that Hispanics may have a “rational fear” of their answers to the census being misused by the Trump administration, as she argued against including a question about citizenship in the 2020 count....

BFD who cares let them fear for their illegal entry thats what laws are for to deter people from breaking laws...sheesh this is a supreme court judge? heaven help us.


107 posted on 04/23/2019 2:02:55 PM PDT by rolling_stone (Hang em slowly don't boil the rope make it a little short...)
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To: jazusamo
Justice, what laws am I as a citizen allowed to knowingly break?
108 posted on 04/23/2019 2:05:16 PM PDT by Chgogal (I strongly dislike IDAs, aka, DummycRATS.)
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To: Lee25

Impeach her wise ass


109 posted on 04/23/2019 2:37:45 PM PDT by spudville
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To: jazusamo

Racist wide latina.


110 posted on 04/23/2019 2:42:29 PM PDT by utax
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To: rlmorel

Given it is she...it IS a good indicator.


111 posted on 04/23/2019 2:51:31 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: jazusamo
FTA

"...will toss the forms into the trash rather than fill them out, distorting the entire 2020 count..."

The power of suggestion?

112 posted on 04/23/2019 4:58:08 PM PDT by Does so (Is Central America Emptying Its Jails?)
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To: rlmorel

see #112


113 posted on 04/23/2019 5:00:03 PM PDT by Does so (Is Central America Emptying Its Jails?)
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To: HamiltonJay

Will we ever know? Where’s RBG? The left seem to be able to keep people alive longer or some shorter. Look how sick Hillary was. Now she seems to be in excellent health.


114 posted on 04/23/2019 6:17:15 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda�Divide and conquer seems to be working.?)
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To: Does so

Well, it would have the effect of placing the Democratic Party on the horns of a dilemma, wouldn’t it?

If the question is put on the Census, illegals only have two choices:

One horn is to toss it in the trash and decrease the representation.

The other horn is to out themselves.

Of course, any time you are faced with the horns of a dilemma, you usually do have three choices: take one horn, take the other horn, or try to ride it out between the horns.

Obviously, they will opt for the third choice, which is keeping it off the form, or something else, haven’t thought it through yet.


115 posted on 04/23/2019 10:14:48 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: Can't control their emotions. Can't control their actions. Deny them control of anything.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
Roberts I think.

You are correct on Roberts writing the liberal opinion for a 5-4 opinion that will remove this question from the census. He's still being blackmailed over his adopted children.

116 posted on 04/24/2019 8:48:04 AM PDT by damper99 (pu)
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To: damper99

Not a chance.

Roberts will be writing to allow the question. There is no constitutional basis for not allowing the question.

The only question is how big a majority will he have? 7,8 or 9.

N.


117 posted on 04/24/2019 4:20:10 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: jazusamo; David; Liz; Ann Archy; ml/nj; theothercheek; Red Steel; Slings and Arrows; EinNYC; ...
Originally, the only reason why a census was required every 10 years by the US Constitution is to apportion members of the House of Representatives among the States, according to their (citizen) populations To the best of my knowledge, there have been no court rulings holding that non-citizens are to be included in the calculation to determine House representation. Therefore, there is a valid constitutional foundation for segregating non-citizen census responses from those of citizens. And in order to do that, the census must ask the citizenship question.

Please correct me on this if I am in error.

118 posted on 04/25/2019 3:47:14 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: bgill; Jane Long; DoughtyOne; GOPJ; ExTexasRedhead

Please see my post # 118 above.


119 posted on 04/25/2019 3:54:08 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: jazusamo

If they are illegal, they should be in fear.


120 posted on 04/25/2019 8:41:24 PM PDT by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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