Posted on 04/13/2019 5:26:05 AM PDT by SkyPilot
LONDON (AP) Elly Wright cant sleep through the night.
The Dutch native, who has lived in Britain for 51 years, keeps thinking about the black boots of Nazi soldiers marching by her basement window as they brought Jews to a nearby camp in her homeland. The flashbacks have been triggered by Britains heated debate over leaving the European Union, which has brought division, strife and fear of foreigners. The 77-year-old painter says it has shattered her sense of belonging.
″(Britain) is my home, Wright said quietly. That is being taken away from me.
Wright isnt alone in her angst. The acrimony over Brexit, which has reached fever pitch as deadlines come and go while politicians squabble, is affecting the mental wellbeing of people from Belfast to Brighton.
Job uncertainty. Visa worries. Confrontational conversations between family members or friends with opposing views on Brexit. The fatigue and stress caused by three years of conflict has spawned new terms: Brexhaustion or Strexit.
Its a civil war, said Cary Cooper, a professor of organizational psychology at Manchester Business School. What the country is going through is not a war with Europe. Its not us against them. Its internal.
Just when some thought a conclusion could be drawn, Britains departure was delayed by six months at an emergency EU summit this week. Whether in favor of exit or hoping to stay, the long argument just got longer, and, for many more stressful.
Some have taken note of the trend. Online meditation provider Headspace has added bespoke meditations to help people manage Brexit stress, addressing issues such as having difficult conversations and what to do when you feel overwhelmed.
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No. They don’t need a permission slip to leave. That’s a lie.
The UK needs to resolve its promise for the Irish border and leave.
And even more so, until then it gets ALL the rights of a member except to vote.
It’s like you saying you ant to leave a club but don’t know when. So the club says ok, keep paying the dues like any other member bu no voting on matters that will br some after you leave. Or just leave now.
You have yo solve the irish border issue first
If the UK kept only Northern Ireland in a customs union with the EU and the rUK left then all would be fine and dandy, the UK would honor its solemn promise in the Good Friday agreement to keep the border open.
Would you think that an acceptable solution, flt-bird? Then England-Wales who were he only two nations in the British Union who voted to leave would then get to leave.
I keep repeating it because its true. I’ve laid out the details of May’s “agreement”. It is hopelessly lopsided in favor of the EU and against British national sovereignty.
Its obvious to all but the most partisan of Remoaners and Yurps.
Yes they DO need a permission slip from the EU to leave.
They get “all the rights” of members you say? So they’ll have to pay a lot of money and have to follow EU dictates and cannot make trade deals with others.....all they give up is the right to vote.
So tell me, how exactly is this different from being a member except that now they wouldn’t have the right to vote?
You can’t be serious with this BS.
First of all the UK is one nation. So no, it is not acceptable to start slicing and dicing the country up by what parts of it voted to remain and what parts did not. The country as a whole voted to leave so that’s that. The matter is decided regardless of what various constituent parts voted for.
Secondly, it is the Yurps who insist on a hard border in Northern Ireland. Britain doesn’t want it. Obviously Ireland will have to work with the UK to ensure Northern Ireland is not used as a backdoor to continue flooding the UK with migrants. Given the UK is by far their largest trading partner, I’m sure the Republic of Ireland will be amenable to working with the UK on that.
Im of the opinion that the childless, un-F-able cow Merkel imported Muslim rapist hordes as a grand revenge against the pretty girls.
It's certainly like that in one way: if the divorce doesn't go off, what sort of a relationship will they have afterward? The EU has a seven-year budgetary adjustment coming up and Jacob Rees-Mogg has proposed simply vetoing it, which a single member state can do. (It cannot do so for a regular annual budget). Not for any particular reason, just to make life difficult for the EU tsars. You don't really have one happy partner and one unhappy one in such situations, you have two unhappy partners.
As is apparent by the way the eu is sticking by its small member Ireland, a small nation like Scotland can expect more freedom in the European Union rather than the British Union, eh?
And no, the EU is Perfectly ine with a soft border in Ireland.in fact that’s the irish backstop which the leavers don’t want.
For your benefit, the terms are
The Withdrawal Agreement covers the following areas:
You join a gym with a 1 year condition and decide to leave in May, then you still need to pay the dues for the rest of the year. The "year" in this case is agreements ending in 2020.
The UK gets ALL the benefits of being a member while being free to go out on it's own.
They have to follow EU trade rules DURING the transition period -- which they can end anytime. They can freely trade with the EU in goods and services with no tariffs at all
How is this different from being a member? It isn't - because it's a transition period until 2020 - for the UK to wrap up its dealings and leave.
did you even really read the withdrawal agreement as opposed to what others said the agreement was about?
What solution do you have? Besides tossing out the DUP and letting NI remain in a customs union with the RoI?
If you want a Brexit, the simplest way is to let NI be in a customs union with the EU and let there be a customs border in the middle of the Irish sea. Very simple - like China-HK: one country two systems. It can work.
You’re conveniently forgetting about the so-called “backstop”.
I don’t know why you obsessively go on and on about this specifically going out of your way to try to go back and forth with me on every thread about this.
Our views are 180 degrees apart on this and that’s not going to change. There’s a reason May’s “deal” got shot down by Parliament over and over again.
Scotland is part of the UK. The people voted and decided that. That issue is done and dusted for at least a generation.
The UK is one sovereign state.
They were amazingly civilized to let the Scots actually vote to determine if they would leave or remain. Hardly anybody else has ever done that. They certainly don’t “owe” the Scots another vote on the matter for at least a generation.
Just like they don’t owe Remoaners another vote in the referendum they lost until at least 40 years after Brexit is done and the UK is out of the EU.
I agree that it was nice of the English to allow the Scots a chance to vote for independence as opposed to Madrids idiotic response to Catalans request.
As to the possibility of a second referendum, Farage himself sais that if the vote was close 52:48 then he would demand another referendum
Scotland is part of the British Union. But it competes separately in international sports tournaments such as the FIFA world cup.
It also voted 63% to stay in another union, the European Union.
But the voice of the Scottish people is overruled by Westminster. Seems that Brussels takes care of its smaller members like Ireland better than Westminster takes care of its smaller members like Scotland or Northern Ireland
Scotland is part of the UK. Scottish voters decided to remain in.
I’m not going back and forth with you about this even one more time. We’ve already gone over this a dozen times. This is boring.
Farage has said he would support another referendum....so long as in/out was not on it but instead the referendum was to determine what kind of Brexit the people wanted.....but that there cannot be another referendum on the in/out question when the first referendum result - ie the decision to leave - hasn’t been implemented yet.
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