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A Tale Of Two Suburbs. White Democrats’ culture clash has been long in the making.
fivethirtyeight.com ^ | 4/8/2019 | Clare Malone

Posted on 04/08/2019 6:13:03 PM PDT by rktman

For Cleveland suburbs, Shaker and Parma have little in common other than that, until recently, Democratic presidential candidates could count on their votes. But in 2016, Parma voted for Donald Trump, and Shaker didn’t. To Clevelanders, this split followed a certain logic. Shaker and Parma have long been of different tribes, though the same political party.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2020election; cleveland; election2020; fidiocracy; howardschultz; ohio; parma; shakerheights; starbucks
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Uh, Parma OH got it right. Shaker Heights, not so much. This site sounds familiar in a bad way.
1 posted on 04/08/2019 6:13:03 PM PDT by rktman
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My Mom went to Shaker Heights hs with Paul Newman and my cousin’s classmate was Roger Penske.


2 posted on 04/08/2019 6:14:38 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: rktman

Democrats, in the OWN words, have only contempt for whites, working folks, men, Christians, anyone who follow the law, anyone who supports the police, etc...

That is why they are importing immigrants, both legal and illegal, at historical record rates.

Americans won’t vote democrats anymore.


3 posted on 04/08/2019 6:17:03 PM PDT by 2banana (Were you)
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To: rktman

“Moon over Parma bring my love to me tonight...”


4 posted on 04/08/2019 6:19:57 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: rktman

Interesting topic, but this article is a meandering blab fest.


5 posted on 04/08/2019 6:33:49 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: nascarnation; SaveFerris; PROCON; FredZarguna; mylife; Lil Flower; Corky Ramirez; CopperTop; ...
my cousin’s classmate was Roger Penske.

Not everyone is Penske material.


6 posted on 04/08/2019 6:51:58 PM PDT by Gamecock (In church today, we so often find we meet only the same old world, not Christ and His Kingdom. AS)
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To: Gamecock; SaveFerris; PROCON

From Wikipedia:

“Penske is a corporate director at General Electric and was chairman of Super Bowl XL in Detroit, Michigan. He was previously on the board of The Home Depot and Delphi Automotive before resigning to chair the Detroit Super Bowl Committee. He has an estimated net worth of $1.83 billion as of 2018.”

He is Penske material. I went to ask for a job. He said “You are aware, the entire board of directors is under indictment and prohibited from conducting business until the investigation is complete. So obviously, we’d have no use for you.” Obviously.


7 posted on 04/08/2019 7:03:37 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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When obama was elected, the liberal blacks believed that he would make allowances for all of their bad habits. He was going to give them money from his stash. There were groups who said they didn’t have to obey police orders now. There were parties no one could control because they believed they “had that right” after their black President was elected.

Obama gave orders to let the rioters tear up the town.. destroy property. We saw on the news they set fire and destroyed in plain site, knowing no one was going to stop them.

They took to shooting police and obama took their side. He gave them a sort of repayment for “slavery”.

Now, give that “right” to an already angry generation or 2 who have been denied and neglected by the dems they vote for... after 8 years of doing what they please, ya can’t put that toothpaste back in the tube.

Last comment on this.. the republicans did NOTHNG to get in obama’s way.. they treated him with the freedom to absolutely destroy our nation... because his skin was darker and because he dared anyone to cross him. He was a controlling snake in the White House for 8 long years! The GOP let him and the media absolutely love the horrible human being I think he is.. and gave him all the help he wanted...

All of which makes the treatment they give Trump, more difficult to take!


8 posted on 04/08/2019 7:12:01 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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Prethty simple; Shaker Heights is mixed black and prosperous white liberals. Parma is blue collar, mostly white. Shaker has mostly mainline Protestant churches, lightly attended. Parma has orthodox and Catholic Churches of every ethnicity and flavor. An objective demographic analysis of the two suburbs would find Parma far more ethnically as a well as politically diverse. Shaker has skin color diversity but culturally is a monoculture, about as diverse as a field of corn.
9 posted on 04/08/2019 7:49:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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To: Gamecock

Ahh... the Penske file...


10 posted on 04/08/2019 9:30:50 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: rktman

For those not familiar with Big Chuck Shadowski and Parma Place...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo8F5DOSwRo


11 posted on 04/08/2019 9:34:42 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Is there Cheese Whiz or Kielbasa involved?


12 posted on 04/08/2019 9:43:31 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: rktman

One night some guy called WLS in the 70s, He mumbled and stumbled.

The Host said Sir are you eating something? “mumble mumble”

Sir are you eating something? “drinking whiskey and eating kielbasa”

Hawhoo!


13 posted on 04/08/2019 10:04:56 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Tim Conway launched off TV 8

Great stuff


14 posted on 04/08/2019 10:12:27 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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I love Cleveland girls... Tx too..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=kK_lIcv7sic


15 posted on 04/08/2019 10:27:05 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnaeTX3XY7g


16 posted on 04/08/2019 11:06:36 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Lets roll..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=7uxyg1aUaoI


17 posted on 04/08/2019 11:18:22 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Itsanotta Sonatta… But it’s close..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=Il3ZhMt4NgY


18 posted on 04/08/2019 11:45:11 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Am I to old for this ****?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8EoIcG-ZBU

Naw


19 posted on 04/08/2019 11:57:58 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: rktman

Okay, Clare is only talking to Democrats, why not Republicans, Clare? Could you not found any?


20 posted on 04/09/2019 1:39:56 AM PDT by ConservaTeen (WFLA's Jack Harris: Brooklyn is missing their village idiot. Right you are, Jack.)
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