[Lazamataz]

I have no strong feelings about the Vax/Anti-Vax argument. In fact, the vaccination stuff is only tangential to this story. The story is that a mother, happy with the progress of an illness in her 2 year old, was raided with a No-Knock home invasion because she did not receive the blessing of The State.

See, this is the problem. Our Law Enforcement has been so militarized that they are at war with the citizenry. Flash-bangs, automatic weapons, tactical vests, armored personnel carriers... all this stuff lends to the concept of fighting our own citizens.

It's got to change. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

[Rapscallion]

This is not a federal problem. Let Arizona deal with it.

[Seruzawa]

Amazing how many supposed freepers think this is okay. Using govt to “save the life of one child” like this is in fact not ok. It grows and grows until there are govt cameras in every home.

Never mind that all vaxes are not created equal. Many are completely worthless and are only approved because of a corrupt FDA/Pharma revolving door.

Totalitarian freaks. They are rife on both sides of the aisle. All with the “best of intentions”.

[Sir Napsalot]

This is not simply a mother refused treatment for her son “with high fever” after doctor’s order for follow-up.

We know that her fear is because she didn’t vaccinate her son properly, so whatever made the child sick is likely some very highly contagious disease.

And that’s how we hear breakouts all over the country. I don’t want my child endangered any more than I want regular citizens suffering.

Militarized peace-keeping officers is not the major point of this story.

[morphing libertarian]

cops protecting the life of a bay., social services does it every day 24/7. I’vm with it. Even with a libertarian bent. I believe the innocent and helpless must be saved from death and serious abuse. If you opposes abortion, how can you sit by let a kid fry their brain from fever. Parents have no right to kill kid in that situation.

[leaning conservative]

Good morning Monsieur Laz.
I agree with your argument that the whole militarization of the police is insane. My favorite recently was the guy who had a tv that was not the one he ordered & they surrounded his house. Really!?

I also think a child’s health comes first & if the parents can’t/won’t provide for that child then the government needs to step in. And NO as you described, with a military presence more suited for a serial killer arrest. We’ve all seen the innocent people and dogs killed because of these raids.
I’m a teacher & I have sadly had to call DHS more than I should. I know you would call if you saw abuse/neglect. It’s a slippery slope, thin line kind of thing.

[Lurker]

It’s called a warrant. Go get one, flatfoot.

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[ro_dreaming]

Well, see, the police state did knock.

However, everything from after seeing the doctor is 100% wrong.

The doctor violated HIPAA laws, and I would sue the hospital and the doctor personally for everything they’ve got.

I’d sue the DCS, and police as well for violating my rights under the US Constitution.

When I was a child, I ran 104F fever all the time - I got tonsillitis several times a year, and actually grew to enjoy the ice baths.

Maybe that’s why I so prefer the cold now that I’m almost 50. Who knows.

[GailA]

Nanny government interfering with parents. Having raised 3 boys, first thing I do is Tylenol and a tepid bath. If fever doesn't go down at all then you start thinking ER after you repeat the Tylenol and a cooler bath. Then consider a ER.

Fevers go with many vaccines. So do some very bad reactions, which is why we have Anti-Vaxers, their child or a friend's child has been serious damaged by a vaccine. It makes you leary of getting them for your child. Considering the FDA'S BAD track record of Bad drugs many don't trust what is approved by them.

It's the Parental choice to vaccinate or not. Not the Government's. This is Communism being forced on us. We are the only country in the world to require 36 vaccines. NOW MMR we are told needs to be repeated every 10 yrs not the LIFE TIME PROTECTION we were told it was. The fist shot if for Hep b just before they release the mother after giving birth. Babies that young have had NO CHANCE TO DEVELOP A IMMUNE SYSTEM. 6 SHOTS IN 1 IS ASKING FOR TROUBLE. EVEN the MMR is risky and over whelms a child system.

My Niece took her 104 degree feverish 5 month old to their rural ER, they said all she had was a earache from early teething. Grandma, my Sis said you take her to a Knoxville hospital, good thing she was taken there, that simple teething earache fever turned into a 1 month Nightmare of Spinal Meningitis not knowing from day to day if the baby would live. Then her older brother has Duchenes MD early onset and the IDIOT Neurologist won't certify Gene Positive so he can be referred to a Pediatric Neurologist for early treatment. That lets him get DSSI, Medicare/Tenn-care, Disability Act protections and the new Trump Right to Try. Because they are under Tenn-care referrals are needed you just can't pick a doc and go there. Their mom has Lyme's, Lupus, Kidney, Liver, and Lung damage, she on Oxygen and she's not quite 30. Falls and gets concussions. She can't get the PCP to send her for a MRI for Post Concussion Syndrome. IDIOT dr took her off the Oxygen to do a stupid Sleep study, now she having fainting spells, Low Ox score and they've still not put her back on Oxygen, but cancelled the sleep study because of the concussion issues they've NOT done a MRI for.

So they are picking on a child they know is not vaccinated. Schools have that on record. We would not be seeing a resurgence of these childhood diseases if we had that WALL and SCREENED ever one who we allow across. That goes the same for Visa holders. You once had to have a full medical to get into the USA via Ellis Island.

[GodAndCountryFirst]

It’s pretty obvious what should have happened here. Biblical Law gives the male head of household complete and unrestricted sovereignty over what happens with the confines of his home. When the father told the cops to buzz off, that should have been the end of it.

Whether the child was in danger (and what to do if that was the case) was something the father was empowered to determine. Nobody is empowered to overrule the father on matters like this.