Posted on 03/29/2019 5:27:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
Democrats want to register your guns. It isn’t just something that universal background checks will eventually lead to. There is a push even in a “gun friendly” state such as Pennsylvania, where only antiques and guns owned by law enforcement would be exempt. Democrats in the state legislature and Governor Tom Wolf strongly support the bill.
Yet, despite what gun control advocates and Democrats claim, the proposal will take money away from law enforcement policies that work and leave Pennsylvanians less safe.
“The bill would require Pennsylvanians seeking to do anything with a gun, whether that be own, possess, sell or transfer, to apply for gun registration through State Police,” said Rep. Cruz, the bill’s lead sponsor. “This [Pennsylvania State Police] database will aid all law enforcement officials with investigations and with tracking missing or stolen firearms."
Pennsylvania state police have keep records on all transfers of handguns (both private and through dealers) since 1931 and thus has already had a registration system for them. Records on handgun purchases through dealers go back to 1901. The new regulations would add in the private transfer of long guns as well as a $10 fee per gun per year as well as fingerprinting and citizenship verification.
Gun control advocates have long claimed that a comprehensive registry would be an effective safety tool. Their reasoning is straightforward: If a gun has been left at a crime scene, the registry will link the crime gun back to the criminal.
Nice logic, but reality has never worked that way. Crime guns are very rarely left at the crime scene. The few that are have been unregistered — criminals are not stupid enough to leave behind a gun that’s registered to them. When a gun is left at the scene, it is usually because the criminal has been seriously injured or killed. These crimes would have been solved even without registration.
Registration hasn't worked in Pennsylvania or other places. During a 2001 lawsuit, the Pennsylvania state police could not identify a specific crime that had been solved that the registration system from 1901 to 2001, though they did claim that it had “assisted” in a total of four cases but they could provide no details.
During a 2013 deposition, the Washington, D.C., police chief said that she could not “recall any specific instance where registration records were used to determine who committed a crime.”
When I testified before the Hawaii State Senate in 2000, the Honolulu chief of police also stated that he couldn’t find any crimes that had been solved due to registration and licensing. The chief also said that his officers devoted about 50,000 hours each year to registering and licensing guns. This time is being taken away from traditional, time-tested law enforcement activities.
Canada and other parts of the U.S. haven't had any better luck. From 2003 to 2009, 1,314 out of 4,257 Canadian homicides were committed with firearms. Data provided last fall by the Library of Parliament reveal that the murder weapon was identified in fewer than a third of the homicides with firearms. Of the identified weapons, about three-quarters were not registered. Among registered weapons, about half were registered to someone other than the person accused of the homicide. In just 62 cases — only 4.7 percent of all firearm homicides — was the gun found to be registered to the accused. As most homicides in Canada are not committed with a gun, these 62 cases correspond to only about 1 percent of all homicides.
So, on average during that seven-year period, there were only nine cases annually in which it was even conceivable that registration made a difference. But apparently registration didn't make a difference even in those cases. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Chiefs of Police couldn’t provide a single example in which tracing was of more than peripheral importance to solving a case.
Becoming the party of hitler!!!
My contention with the Northeast Conservative is not that none of them actually are.
They are when they compare to others in their state, but when they leave these states they infiltrate conservative discussions and groups with their lies... only to say things like “Oh, I’m a conservative but Trump has lied...” or “I believe in the second amendment but we don’t need to die on the wire over a black gun”
Be wary the NE “but” conservative.
“The politicians in PA will never pass this crap in PA during my lifetime.”
Oh hoh whoa oh... Yes they will.
I’m pretty sure that they will phrase it oddly and it will be full of holes.. such as “My M16 is an antique firearm”.
The point is not to create good legislation. That ship sailed decades ago. Now the point is to whittle down the positive opinions of guns. Make the gun owner look stupid, troublesome and persona-non-grata.
Make anti gunners look cool, and gun owners look like morons. Solve the gun issue the same way they reduced the number of smokers.
“Or register massive non-existent arsenals in all sorts of amusing locations, then sit back and watch the fun begin.“
That’s pretty much what happened in Canada when they tried it. Many Leftist politicians found themselves suddenly “owning” hundreds of firearms. It was such a mess that it was shut down a few years back.
But not until millions and millions of Canadian dollars were wasted.
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Apparently it already has, in regards to handguns (since 1931 and earlier) as per the article.
Pinging Hale then running away!
On top of that it is a money tree. $10.00 dollars a year. But will it stay at $10. NO IT WILL GROW LARGER BY THE YEARS.
^!%@!%^@$!@#^!!!!!
WILL.
NOT.
COMPLY.
EVER
RE Confiscation:
That’s the day they’re for. That day is the day to use them.
None of us will and the state does not have the resources to enforce this ridiculous idea.
Hell, look at New Zealands current record of submission; they aint talking about because no one is turning in their gear.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_General_Assembly
Republicans currently hold a 26-21 majority in the PA Senate, and 109-93 majority in the PA House. Hopefully this bill will be DOA.
Why?
Joe the Plumber has a gun: S/N 2354836
Now what?
Register vaginas instead.
The owners of them will kill about 20-25% of the viable humans in them before birth.
Anyone that DOES turn in their gear isn’t anyone I’d want to call friend, anyway.
People died for this Right.
It will be defended.
Period.
I need to buy a boat. Gonna have a few boating accidents....
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