Posted on 03/21/2019 5:54:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
One can spend several days trying not to overreact to President Trumps latest, unprovoked tweetstorm against the late Sen. John McCain R-Ariz., yet still conclude that there is something sick and twisted about Trumps obsession with the singular American hero Trump disparages.
Tom Rogan already in these pages has eloquently explained why, fake heel spurs or no fake heel spurs, Trump could never be fit to wear McCains discarded shoes. And lawyer George Conway, husband of top Trump aide Kellyanne Conway, has presented a persuasive case that Trumps fulminations about McCain and other bizarre eruptions are signs of a personality disorder.
What remains, though, is a reminder that on facts as well as fulminations, Trumps flip-out against McCain is full of falsehoods.
First, as many others have noted, Trump repeatedly accused McCain of trying to spread the so-called Steele dossier as a way to block Trumps election, but the undisputed evidence shows McCain didnt even become aware of the dossier until after Election Day. (Plus, McCain did exactly what a senator should do when provided such material: He turned it over to the FBI, without prejudice. But thats beside the point about Trumps dishonesty.)
What has not been as adequately refuted is Trumps allegation that McCain voted against a bill to repeal and replace Obamacare, and that McCains vote was a big surprise. Neither element of that story is true.
First, by the time a healthcare bill finally reached a vote in the Senate, it was in no way, shape or form a repeal and replace bill. In reality, it was a shell of a bill known as skinny repeal, which did next to nothing other than keep...
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So that's what you like in a politician.
Polish.
You are part of the problem.
Yay.
Isn't this a forum where members debate issues? Can't you do better than, "Shut your mouth??"
For God’s sake man, get off it. McCain had Republican opposition the last two times he ran for office in Arizona. And both times his opponent got near 40% of the vote. As for McCain, he screwed up Syria. He screwed up Libya. He did nothing to alleviate the border problem that Arizona and the USA has with Mexico. He had one of the nastiest tempers in the history of the Congress. And he had few friends. Most were scared to death of him because he was utterly undependable. Hundreds of people probably carried a mirror to his funeral to stick under his nose just to make sure he was dead.
There is a huge difference between reality and the Trump haters/bots on Free Republic.
CNN: Support For Impeaching Trump Drops 12 Points Among Dems, Lowest Level Overall Since Last June!
Hotair ^ | 03/21/2019 | Allahpundit
Posted on 3/21/2019, 6:54:24 AM by SeekAndFind
Theres an obvious reason. What I cant figure out is whether the numbers here are strong evidence that Democratic leaders do have serious influence over the rank-and-files views or that they dont.
The decline from 43% in favor in December to 36% now stems largely from a change in Democratic views on impeaching the President.
In December, 80% of self-identified Democrats said they were in favor of impeachment that now stands at 68%, a 12-point dip. Among independents and Republicans, support for impeachment has fallen 3 points over the same time.
The only major subgroup among which the decline was larger than among Democrats is college graduates: 50% backed impeachment in December, 35% do so now. Combining the two to look at Democrats with college degrees, support for impeachment fell 17 points from 79% in December to 62% now
Overall, the share of Americans backing impeachment for Trump is the lowest level found since CNN began asking about it last June. Support had been as high as 47% last fall.
What accounts for the change? Simple: Nancy Pelosi finally went on record to say shes opposed to impeachment and was backed up by the likes of Adam Schiff. Democrats with college degrees are exactly the sort of demographic youd expect to follow pronouncements from Democratic leaders in Congress and, sure enough, here they are rapidly cooling to the idea now that Pelosis signaled her disapproval. Irony of ironies, Trumps nemesis killed impeachment fever on the left!
Well, maybe not killed. Wounded, lets say. Slightly wounded. Superficially wounded. What I meant up top in wondering what this says about her influence is that Democratic support for impeachment is still awfully high despite the Speakers apprehension. Progressives like AOC and Tom Steyer demand impeachment; the most powerful Democrat in the country, renowned for her political acumen, calls it a bad idea. And a supermajority of Dems *still* side with the former over the latter in wanting Trump gone. Even the college-educated segment of the party wants him out at a 62 percent clip.
Can Pelosi really hold back that tide, especially if Muellers report hints at obstruction of justice?
On the other hand, fascinating historical numbers from the crosstabs:
Both Dubya and Obama had greater shares of the public in favor of impeaching them than Bill Clinton, who actually was impeached, had.
Until recently Trump had them all beat, routinely pulling above 40 percent on the impeachment question. A CNN poll taken in September put that figure at 47/48, perilously close to majority support.
Now, however, thanks to Pelosis dim view of the prospect, Trump stands at 36/59 on impeachment, the lowest share yet and only slightly higher than Bush or Obama.
By piping up in opposition, Pelosi has actually helped create the outcome she favors here. The higher public support for impeaching Trump is, the less power shell have to hold back her caucus from doing it. By coming out against the prospect, shes driven public support down to the point where it may be impossible for impeachment diehards on the left in the House to muster the political will to follow through.
Maybe theres more to the overall drop in support for impeachment than just Pelosis influence, though. This is actually the second straight poll in which support declined: It went from 47 percent in September to 43 percent in December to 36 percent now. To rephrase that, it was at an all-time high before the midterms, then dipped after Democrats won back the House in November, then dipped even more sharply after they actually took power in January. The more abstract the prospect of impeachment is, in other words, the more gung ho Dems are to do it. Once the prospect became feasible, carrying with it the possibility of an electoral backlash if they followed through, it may be that some squishy impeachment supporters began to get cold feet. Notice that support for impeaching Obama dipped a bit after the 2014 midterm in the table above even though that election gave the GOP control of the Senate, increasing the possibility that it might actually happen.
To some degree, impeachment fever is driven by the out-partys frustration at being locked out of power. The president beat you at the polls, youre spoiling to get some leverage over him and over national policy, so naturally thoughts turn to ways he might be lawfully removed. Win a congressional election, though, and you no longer need to impeach to have some policy influence.
If Trump were to win next year and Democrats were to reclaim a Senate majority (a highly unlikely outcome), we might see Dem support for impeachment decline further even though, seemingly paradoxically, theyd be in a better position to make it happen. More influence over government means less interest in a desperation move like impeachment to impose your political will.
Needless to say, though, that argument overlooks the fact that Mueller is the biggest X factor in modern political history. All questions of partisan influence and leverage aside, if his report is accusatory Democratic impeachment fever will turn critical. Not even Pelosi will be able to stop it.
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That’s funny.
President Trump is a breath of fresh air. He will not allow the Lying, Conniving Leftists (dead or alive) get away with Anything. This is why he WON in 2016 and why he will WIN in 2020. Playing nice and polite is what got our country into a mess in the first place. We finally have a man who Loves America enough to fight back. Instead of joining those attacking him we all need to give him our full support.
John McCain was an ill tempered, petty, angry, sanctimonious, bitter, thin skinned, smarmy, bully. He treated the last 2 Republican Presidents like trash while never saying a bad thing about Obama. He became the problem that is Washington DC. He was a career 37 year politician. He was part of the cancer killing the average American. He also was the Hanoi Songbird. Hell only be missed by family and a few others,
Overrated Pilot - Overrated POW(Other Hanoi Hilton prisoners were awarded MOH. Not the Songbird) - Overrated Politician who did nothing to MAGA.
Haha. Where'd you get that idea. Most of the nation hated him. The Demderps tolerated him because he was useful to them. Republicans (not Republicants) hated him.
Nobody loved him.
ahhhh..noooo.
History is going to confirm that while George W had some good traits he was first and foremost a Globalist and continued the Nations path down the track of gutting our manufacturing, and putting the multinational corporations desires first, making us a second class economy by design.
Not a comment made during Zero’s reign and right from the election dump on Trump. I thought it was restraint during 0’s time but it wasn’t, he agreed with the descent. Didn’t he let Obama engineer the disastrous economic package that cemented our long rescission before BO was even President?
Yes. But president Trump should be above all that. He should be the bigger man. He should be the adult. Especially when the Dims are acting like children. Failing that, someone needs to take his phone away. He's making an ass of himself.
The DemonRats now realize it and are attacking the structure of the court so as to pack it as a tool of their continued effort to make themselves the only power in all three branches of government now and in the future.
I really like the idea that Trump is a fighter; I just wish he wouldn't get into so many fights!
You are exactly the kind of Republican/conservative the enemy Left loves. I mean LOVES. Dim, weak, “oh gosh we tried”, let’s play nice, etc.
Exactly why we got in the mess we’re in. And that game was supposed to continue forever until Trump alone blew it up (against your Bush buddies wishes by the way).
Your takes are infantile “90 percent of the country loves McCain”. Good Lord you’re dim.
This ain’t no time for weakness, your ilk fucked us up and Trump is trying to fix it.
So stay in your lane crybaby
Exactly.
The Donald knows ALL the dirt on McScum, and not just dossier dirt, but Middle East dirt, border pipeline dirt, bribery dirt, and numerous other dirt. McSuck was a top level derp and he represented the derp state in all manner of dirt.
The Donald is setting the stage for when it all comes out. He knows exactly what he's doing, and anybody that thinks he's CRASS or RUDE just doesn't understand the basics.
The purpose of all this ‘don’t speak ill of the dead crap’ is to COVER UP THE TRUTH.
Yep. Again, my point. He has our support and doesn’t need to convince us. He needs people in the middle or he won’t be around long. He can do this without “caving” like a Rino would. That’s not what I’m suggesting.
It’s more about what not to say, than what to say.
You are wrong Tangled, and trying to read what the public is thinking in a fool’s errand.
It does NOT matter what the public thinks, what matters, as ALWAYS THE TRUTH.
IF YOU CANNOT SEE AND ACCEPT THE TRUTH YOU WILL FOREVER BE INFLUENCED BY WHAT PEOPLE THINK.
That is sad. Hold your fire against Truth Tellers, for they are the the people to believe.
There is no “above it all”. That is a ridiculous comment a loser comment. It’s something that people say to take away a person’s option to tell the truth and to keep their head in the sand. The truth is often unpopular, unpalatable, uncomfortable.
It’s a variant of the theory that Presidential means you never raise your voice or curse or get passionate. We picked a man who wasn’t afraid to get into the fray and start landing blows.
People need to open their eyes about how Americans are being sold down the river by these oh so proper politicians, selling us & enriching themselves. Moderates may not like it but they need to hear it and get educated or we will not save our country. That is what Trump is doing every day. “Above it all” changes nothing, exposes nothing, teaches nothing and the next leftist can finish off the Country.
History is going to confirm that the Bushes are just as evil as the Clintons and more so. Sorry. That’s going to be hard for some to take.
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