John Moses Browning
Posted on 03/10/2019 7:12:48 PM PDT by Steve Schulin
Their own fault.
Excellent. We finally are returning to a proper American foreign policy of isolationism. DJT is clearly moving to get us out of our entangling alliances while setting the stage so that the final decision will be made by the Europeans. I would have preferred just telling them that we are leaving and giving them a few years courtesy notice. But if Trump prefers this as some face saving maneuver, I’m fine with that.
Enough with being the world’s policeman. We can take care of ourselves. If Europe, Korea Japan and etc. can’t or won’t... well that’s their problem.
That means we can close all our military facilities there and bring everyone home permanently. Sounds like a good thing to me.
And put them on our southern border.
Yup, it is. Two generations of my family fought for Europe’s freedom in two world wars. I’m sick of belly aching, money grubbing America hating Western Europeans. Bring our people home.
That means we can close all our military facilities there and bring everyone home permanently. Sounds like a good thing to me.
After 70 years can we declare the end of WWII?
> What’s the point of troops in Germany?
“For when we inevitably need to use them against the Germans again”
Heh heh heh. Except that they won’t actually be German, of course.
“After 70 years can we declare the end of WWII?”
Except on paper, I’m not certain that WW I really ended.
Yep the Russians moved troops out of Germany in 1994. That’s 25 years ago.
Let’s send them a bill for every conflict we’ve ever helped or saved them from. going back to WWI I like the 50% idea for a profit. Maybe our military members could get a 5 or 10% pay raise when stationed in some of these places.
“Our primary value to Europe is the nuclear shield we provide them. We spent hundreds of billions to develop nuclear warfare tech and the 2% of GDP we are pressing them to contribute to NATO is chump change next to the value of the shield we provide. Trump would not be out of line telling the EU if they want to retain that protection the EU must pay the US directly 2% annually of their collective GDP to reimburse of for the cost.”
This.
“Moving Ramstein ain’t happening”
Clark AFB was closed and transferred to the Phillipines for a time. ... then Mt. Pinatubo blew in 1991 and ashed it pretty good, then later with the PRC Navy threatening international shipping the U.S. has been invited back to monitor the theater.
So closing (i.e.transferring) a major AFB isn’t exactly unheard of.
I have fun with asking this question:
“Who won World War II?”
I have to think about these countries forming massive armies...and shutting us out.
Re: “Our primary value to Europe is the nuclear shield we provide them.”
England and France have their own nuclear weapons.
They don’t need ours.
So closing (i.e.transferring) a major AFB isn’t exactly unheard of.
Has nothing to do with military issues. It’s a political statement. The NATO charade must be continued at all costs. Even if the Germans are deploying broomsticks because they didn’t have enough weapons and not deploying a single submarine because they where to cheap to buy spares.
No need. Germany is done.
Yes, but why just plus fifty?
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