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If These US Navy Patents are Made Then We Are in a Star Trek Technology World
Next BIG Future ^ | 22FB19 | Brian Wang

Posted on 03/09/2019 6:04:55 AM PST by vannrox

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To: LibertyOh
I'm with you: my "Poppycock meter" pegged when I read through the patent claims.

I was involved in evaluating a technology submitted to the Marine Corps for guiding artillery projectiles. It was completely useless and would never have guided anything - it included a "down sensor" in a projectile that was rotating at about 10,000 RPM.

I recommended that the inventor come in to explain his system but he declined. Some years later that "inventor" sued the Navy and the Army for not accepting his purported guidance system, thereby "causing him not to get lucrative foreign contracts".

The Navy called me as their expert witness and when I explained the problems with his useless design, the whole court had a great laugh and he lost his suit.

Probably would have helped him a bit if he had ever actually seen an artillery weapon system before and learned how it worked. Or maybe not.

41 posted on 03/09/2019 7:30:46 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: bramps
"You can’t get a patent on an abstract idea."

Actually, you can. They are called "paper patents". Such are often challenged in the courts. Most are just pretty wallpaper.

42 posted on 03/09/2019 7:32:31 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Openurmind

“Any best guesses?”
No. I can understand concepts but if I have to look up too many words in a sentence I get a headache.


43 posted on 03/09/2019 7:34:29 AM PST by Cold Heart (Oregon, tyranny and taxes)
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To: vannrox

Die Glocke


44 posted on 03/09/2019 7:35:53 AM PST by R0CK3T
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To: Openurmind

Actually I didn’t have to look up any of them, but it made for a good reply.


45 posted on 03/09/2019 7:36:24 AM PST by Cold Heart (Oregon, tyranny and taxes)
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To: glorgau

Everyone knows the secret Nazi base is under Antarctica in the hollow Earth...


46 posted on 03/09/2019 7:37:03 AM PST by EEGator
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To: vannrox

Was this made by Andrea Rossi?!
Where’s Kevmo?


47 posted on 03/09/2019 7:38:33 AM PST by EEGator
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To: vannrox

Since 1952, the US has had on the books the Invention Secrecy Act that permits the federal government to keep a patent secret, even ones developed independently of government labs. As of 2017, there are almost six thousand such secret patents. With such a system of secrecy in place, I am hard put to imagine why these patents, if they represent genuine and practical innovations, would be applied for by the US Navy and permitted to become public.


48 posted on 03/09/2019 7:40:54 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: Chainmail

Chainmail,
We must have the same “Poppycock meter”.
These patents and applications are Flim-Flam.
And I actually am an expert in this particular field of physics.


49 posted on 03/09/2019 7:47:01 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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To: Rockingham

There’s no reason to be logical on this thread...


50 posted on 03/09/2019 7:47:31 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Rockingham

“Since 1952, the US has had on the books the Invention Secrecy Act that permits the federal government to keep a patent secret, even ones developed independently of government labs. “

True. About 20 years ago, we ran into this. We had to file a lawsuit to lift the governments injunction, so than we could make our product.


51 posted on 03/09/2019 7:50:47 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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To: JimRed

“It’s transparent titanium we really need!”

We can’t even make government transparent.


52 posted on 03/09/2019 7:53:32 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: Openurmind
But my curiosity would be what the “Metallic” coating and “Metallic” lining are exactly in these diagrams? Being put in parenthesis like that makes me think this is privileged information or it would just say “copper”.

It is de rigueur to be vague in patents - or at least no more specific than absolutely necessary.

Suppose you patent a device and specify "copper-coated" - then some other fellow makes a knock-off and points out: "Mine is silver-coated - hence no patent infringement!"

Regards,

53 posted on 03/09/2019 7:53:33 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: vannrox

I don’t understand any of it even with pictures, but I’m bookmarking it for possible future epiphany.


54 posted on 03/09/2019 7:58:12 AM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: BuffaloJack
I recognized your expertise in the post you wrote..

My dang meter will have to go in for service: the needle bent when it hit the "total BS" peg.

55 posted on 03/09/2019 7:59:15 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Been their brother. See above. Don’t be late for supper!


56 posted on 03/09/2019 8:00:36 AM PST by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: wally_bert
Ah, mah poor bearins.

Ah, mah poor bearins bairns.

Fixed it for ya.      =;^)

57 posted on 03/09/2019 8:28:02 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Atrophy of science is visible when the spokesman goes from Einstein to Sagan to Neil Degrasse Tyson.)
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To: EEGator

In the moment, the habits of a lifetime are hard to put aside.


58 posted on 03/09/2019 8:43:53 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: norwaypinesavage

re: “Note that one kW-h of electricity costs you about a dime. “

14 cents per on my last bill. And that does not include the “carrying charge” (delivery charge, for the lines, etc) tacked on to the tune of 2 or 3 cents per KW, plus misc charges, and tax.

Overall, I’m looking at over 19 cents/kWh lately.


59 posted on 03/09/2019 8:45:56 AM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: bkopto
Gravity and inertia are closely related. Those 'craft' don't operate on petro chemicals and the vacuum energy is permeating everything already. IF those 'craft' are not from our solar system, then the operators have a means to communicate at greater than light speed. And, BTW, light speed is only a speed limit to things with mass or that have 'universe recognized' mass. IF you mask the mass, you travel 'outside the three of spatial and one of temporal. But you are still 'in the Universe', just not the Universe we now sense with our temporally 'locked' selves and instruments.

Without time, events do not occur in the Universe God created.

Without space, a thing does not exist in the Universe God created.

60 posted on 03/09/2019 8:46:50 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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