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Interview: Bill Kristol and John Ziegler Agree that Conservatism Would Be Better Off Had Hillary Won
Mediaite ^ | March 4 2019 | John Ziegler

Posted on 03/06/2019 5:46:25 PM PST by rintintin

n the modern history of American politics, has there been a group deemed so completely irrelevant, while also being the subject of continuous attacks, even from the president of the United States, as “Never Trump” conservatives? Yesterday, I interviewed conservative commentator Bill Kristol, who is the de facto leader of that movement, of which I am usually a supporter.

The conversation was part of my new Individual 1 podcast, which focuses, twice a week, on chronicling the Trump presidency from a conservative perspective. We hit on a number of important topics, including the lunacy of CPAC, whether it would have been better if Trump had lost to Hillary, whether Kristol’s plan to find a legitimate challenger for Trump in the 2020 GOP primary is realistic, which Democrats Kristol could support in 2020 against Trump, and what the future holds after Trump is gone.

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To: Repeal 16-17

I’m sure that in a Hillary Clinton presidencey, Kristol would have been her go-to “f*cking Jew b*st*rd.”


21 posted on 03/06/2019 5:59:21 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Modern feminism: ALL MEN BAD!!!)
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To: rintintin

Just when you think they cannot possibly become even more complete idiots.


22 posted on 03/06/2019 5:59:22 PM PST by kimoajax (Epstein, Clinton, Pelosi)
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To: rktman

You have to understand their personal financial stake in all of this; if they profess that they are conservatives but hate Trump they will be given the “conservative” chairs as the bone thrown to the right on CNN, MSNBC, the Times, etc. The media knows that they are bootlickers who will say anything for a few morsels and some continued public recognition that they can parlay into unread books, speaking appearances etc. By parroting the Establishment line, they serve as useful idiots for the Left while representing really next to no one other than themselves. There is a word for it in Nevada where in some communities it is legal: prostitution.


23 posted on 03/06/2019 6:00:08 PM PST by laconic
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To: nascarnation

And, of course, such a SCOTUS would uphold Hillary’s Stormtroopers taking us out into the back 40 for executions.


24 posted on 03/06/2019 6:00:47 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Modern feminism: ALL MEN BAD!!!)
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To: rintintin

We have a mental illness problem in this country. As extensive a problem as opioids I am certain, but we know how opioids are delivered. How are American’s becoming so sick in their heads they believe up is down, and right is left, or in is out?

Flouride?


25 posted on 03/06/2019 6:01:03 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists call 'em what you will they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rintintin

Yeah, sitting around the country club with Binky and Skippy, talking about how great the club used to be

This is a civil war. We need bold leaders and commanders, not flaccid old boys.


26 posted on 03/06/2019 6:01:31 PM PST by llevrok (Vote while it's still legal)
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To: nascarnation

You’ve been on here for 19 years.

Such an idiotic comment is beneath you needing to respond.

It’s kind of you to even think he deserved a response to such insane thinking.


27 posted on 03/06/2019 6:01:46 PM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: rintintin

Kristol speaks like a fairy.


28 posted on 03/06/2019 6:02:04 PM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: Fungi

The “unfunded” tax cut is actually already reaping modest dividends to the Treasury. However, Congress spends so much, much more and Trump keeps rubberstamping the stuff.


29 posted on 03/06/2019 6:02:30 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Modern feminism: ALL MEN BAD!!!)
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To: rintintin

Apparently losing is winning. Having 3-4 consecutive far left presidential terms would have been the end of everything we believe in the conservative movement. We would not have a recognizable country. I am surprised we escaped Obama without more carnage. Hillary would have ended any chance.

These people are not conservatives. They are enemies.


30 posted on 03/06/2019 6:04:04 PM PST by ilgipper (The mob only destroys. Never creates.)
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To: rockinqsranch

Public skrewels?


31 posted on 03/06/2019 6:04:10 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Modern feminism: ALL MEN BAD!!!)
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To: rintintin

You only have to look at the Supreme Court to refute the imbecilic notion that conservatism would have been better off if Hillary had won.


32 posted on 03/06/2019 6:04:26 PM PST by FreedomForce
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To: Lurkinanloomin

EVERYTHING is about the Bush Plan for North Mexico (aka USA).


And apparently intervention in the mid east. To benefit of Israel? I was surprised at the sting of the neocon/establishment attacks on POTUS and his supporters when he announced the withdrawal from Syria. I am talking about “Republicans” here of course. The same folks fighting tooth and nail right now to keep the US border wide open to drug and human smuggling. The neocons lost any support I may have for them forever after their Syria tantrum.


33 posted on 03/06/2019 6:05:30 PM PST by lodi90
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To: rintintin

Trying to ascertain if there is anyone in the world who gives a stepped on rat turd what Bill Krystal thinks. Nope apparently not


34 posted on 03/06/2019 6:05:49 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: rintintin

Kristol has traded in his conservative principles for his hatred of Donald Trump.


35 posted on 03/06/2019 6:07:00 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: nascarnation
Hillary would have loaded the SC with libs for eternity.

Indeed she would have....and the lower courts too. It would have been an absolute nightmare.The left would be running roughshod over us now. The court would be 6-3 liberal RIGHT NOW. The republic would be doomed to a footnote in history. God forbid any criticize Hillary, you would find yourself in the gulag, and your family on the street.

36 posted on 03/06/2019 6:10:08 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: rintintin

Ziegler always seemed a weird pompous weirdo.


37 posted on 03/06/2019 6:10:13 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: windsorknot

Conservatism would be better off without con-servatives like Bill Kristol.


38 posted on 03/06/2019 6:10:32 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: windsorknot

Kristol has traded in his conservative principles for his hatred of Donald Trump.


Or maybe he just never had any conservative principles at all.


39 posted on 03/06/2019 6:11:07 PM PST by lodi90
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To: rintintin
Bill Kristol and John Ziegler Agree that Conservatism Would Be Better Off Had Hillary Won If They Admitted They Are Liberals

Truth in advertising...

40 posted on 03/06/2019 6:12:37 PM PST by ssaftler (The opinions expressed here have not been peer reviewed, fact checked or focus group tested.)
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