Posted on 02/19/2019 10:30:17 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
BERLIN - The Trump administration is launching a global campaign to end the criminalization of homosexuality in dozens of nations where it's still illegal to be gay, U.S. officials tell NBC News, a bid aimed in part at denouncing Iran over its human rights record.
U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell, the highest-profile openly gay person in the Trump administration, is leading the effort, which kicks off Tuesday evening in Berlin. The U.S. embassy is flying in LGBT activists from across Europe for a strategy dinner to plan to push for decriminalization in places that still outlaw homosexuality - mostly concentrated in the Middle East, Africa and the Caribbean.
“It is concerning that, in the 21st century, some 70 countries continue to have laws that criminalize LGBTI status or conduct,” said a U.S. official involved in organizing the event.
Grenell, known for his hawkish views on national security, is also currently under consideration to be Trump’s ambassador to the U.N., three U.S. officials tell NBC News, after Trump’s previous pick for the job, Heather Nauert, withdrew from consideration over the weekend. Grenell once served as spokesman for the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. when that role was inhabited by John Bolton, who is now Trump’s national security adviser.
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It's a lie.
There was a time when they were victims and Stonewall was the solution... That time is past. Most ‘hate crimes’ against gays today are as fake as Nigerians wearing MEGA hats in Chicago yelling it's MAGA country... Which is NOT to say that all people have accepted everything about the gay community. They haven't - haven't anymore than the gay community has accepted everything about the MAGA community.
But most of us are sick of the fake pity parties because they're a crime against us. It's the same mentality that happened in the South years ago with the Emmett Til murder. The culture then was all to willing to believe ANYTHING bad about black citizens. Same with Jews in prewar Germany. AND now it's happening here with hundreds of lies and fake hate crimes aimed at Conservatives.
A different choice of victim is not ‘moral’... My point about Sheppard was that his death was used as a weapon to beat up innocent conservatives who had NOTHING to do with his death.
Without a doubt, homosexual practices are abhorrent before God. Sex outside of marriage is also sinful.
We love the sinner and hate the sin.
You are the one who called yourself “crazy.”
There’s a wide gulf between criminalizing homosexuality and embracing every facet of the LGBT agenda. Unfortunately, it seems as though giving an inch quickly snowballs into Obergefell, transgender bathrooms and LGBT agitprop as part of grade school curriculum.
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Which is another way of saying that their might not be that much difference between decriminalizing it and eventually having it crammed down the throat of every citizen in every aspect of their life.
The anus is not a sex organ. It’s only purpose is to eliminate waste from the body. I could care less what the PC crowd says about it. The glorification of sodomy in the United States will eventually cause the downfall of the United States.
This seems like a nifty way to point out that Islam kills homos. He is dividing and conquering the left platforms!
For those against it, think of it this way. While most of us would not engage in homosexuality and believe it to be wrong, should it be criminal? I’m a libertarian at heart and so if what you do does not infringe on myself and what I do should it be illegal? If two men or two women want to have a sexual relationship that hurts no one (except themselves I would argue) who am I to stop it? My only beef with this whole issue are those on the left that want to shove it down the rest of our throats and say you have to agree with us that this is normal. I don’t want to see cheating on your spouse as illegal either but I don’t believe it is right or normal.
Personally, I don’t even know why the government is involved in marriage, hence why the ‘Gay Marriage’ issue? Marriage is a religious institution and the government should have no involvement whatsoever. If one Church wants to marry a gay couple, have at it. If another one does not to do it, they should be allowed to refuse it. The only thing the government should be involved in are legal arrangements. In other words, for purposes of wills, death benefits, etc... the government has to be involved in a legal contract, nothing more. We as a society have to decide what we want to allow to be considered a legal partnership for those type of legal documents.
In any case, it just puts the lie to the fact that Donald Trump hates homosexuals. Like the Jesse Smollets of the world would like you to believe.
how about mouth?
Tent meeting. Preacher gets up and proclaims: “I want all of you fellow sinners, what’s been a he-in’ and a she-in’ to step forward and confess before the Lord!” A few hundred step forward and kneel and pray, talk in tongues, testify, etc.
Preacher continues: “Now I want all of you fellow sinners what’s been a he-in’ and a he-in’ to make that step!” All the homosexuals come forward.
Preacher: “Now I want all of you lady fellow sinners, what’s been a she-in’ and a she-in’ to step forward.” All the lesbians come forward.
Only one fat guy in overalls remains in the audience. Preacher: “Brother, I know you been a-sinnin’. Why haven’t you come forward to confess?”
Fat guy: That be true, brotha. But you didn’t say nothin’ ‘bout a-me-in’ and a-me-in’.”
Stand by for gay activists and leftards to profusely thank Trump, and stop hating on him....ten years later....
I am very cautiously supportive of this.While I think pretty much everyone on this forum is likely to agree that this sort of thing is both immoral and repulsive, my feeling is that private behavior between consenting adults is not the state’s business. Not all sins need to be covered in the criminal code.
Big, big mistake. Homosexuality should be outlawed everywhere, and every homosexual caught in the act should be sentenced to hard labor while they have therapy to unlearn it.
—”It’s not a preference; it is a mental disorder. Those who suffer from it do great harm to themselves and all around them. A person who suffers from same-sex attraction is not mentally competent to consent to a homosexual act; there is, therefore, no such thing as consensual homosexual behavior.”
While you and I may agree that homosexuality is not normal, you seem to want to arrest & prosecute these people. That is truly bigotry.
Since you’re making a parallel with mental illness, are you also then implying that ALL mentally-ill people should be arrested for acting in a mentally ill manner?
I assume your stance comes from YOUR interpretation of the Bible, but at the same time, the Bible encourages kindness to others.
Where did you get off track?
If you truly believed in liberty, you would not bother the homos except if they exploit underage boys, for which there are laws just like with hetero men exploiting underage girls.
American NWO imperialism is hand in glove with the GlobalHomo agenda. This isn’t new at all and Trump isn’t going to defy it. If anything it has become permanently entrenched and opposition is now criminal.
It appears the latest choice of victims is transgender people, mostly male to female (see link below). The numbers have risen dramatically in the past 3 or 4 years, with 2016 and 2017 having around 30. I don’t know whether that is more careful reporting, more publicity, or actual change in violence patterns. What did strike me was that around 2/3s of the victims in the past several years were listed as black or “of color”, but only one was listed in 2018. Why is that??? Change in reporting standards? It makes sense to me that there have been significant numbers of black male to female trans as black women have been considered the stronger sex by some, since in past decades black men have been under more pressure not to achieve.
I’ll just leave this here...
“Scratch a homosexual, and you get a pedophile”
—Kevin Bishop, NAMBLA and homosexual activist
Are you trying to use shame to silence their opposition to your daughter’s perversion? Or what is it that you want?
Ah, you might want to recheck that story. That’s a BS narrative. Sorry you got sucked in.
“While you and I may agree that homosexuality is not normal, you seem to want to arrest & prosecute these people. That is truly bigotry.”
The rules here do not allow me to reply appropriately. Your accusation and use of the word “bigotry” are truly vile, and made more so by the utter lack of justification for them. As you must know, because you seem to speak English, nowhere did I suggest that people who suffer from same-sex attraction disorder (SSAD) should be prosecuted and jailed for that alone.
“Since you’re making a parallel with mental illness”
A parallel? There’s no “parallel.” SSAD *is* a mental illness.
“are you also then implying that ALL mentally-ill people should be arrested for acting in a mentally ill manner?”
It nauseates me to see this sort of mendacious nonsense on Free Republic. Back when I used to post on sites that allow leftwads, I used to see it all the time. Not so much here. Disgusting.
“I assume your stance comes from YOUR interpretation of the Bible”
Do you? Do you really? Do you also assume that it comes from “my” interpretation of the numerous scriptures that tell us it is a great evil? Do you have some interpretation by which “abomination” is a good thing?
However, even an atheist has plenty of reasons for arriving at the same conclusion.
“but at the same time, the Bible encourages kindness to others.”
That cries out for a “pining for the fjords” style of rejoinder: Kindness? Kindness? You think it is a kindness to encourage a person down a road that leads inexorably to destruction? How lucky I must be to have you to lecture me on moral philosophy.
“If you truly believed in liberty, you would not bother the homos”
Wow. The same sophistry we used to hear twenty and more years ago. Not a scintilla of progress in all that time.
In the context of right and wrong, liberty has its limits. You are not at liberty to rape and murder, nor should you be. We do not wrongfully impinge upon the liberties of a mental patient when we insist that they either seek treatment or be segregated from the vulnerable.
“except if they exploit underage boys”
Every male who suffers from SSAD was molested or seduced during his pre-adult years.
“just like with hetero men exploiting underage girls.”
Yeah, because those two things are the same.
I did decide to recheck the story based on a comment I received. See my Comment #94 for my answer and check out the comment I was answering. More checking is planned.
You’re right. I apologize for inadvertently “piling on”.
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