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First Beto O'Rourke and now Kirsten Gillibrand: Democrats mull destroying current barrier...
www.washingtonexaminer.com ^ | February 18, 2019 08:00 AM | by Becket Adams

Posted on 02/18/2019 6:33:37 AM PST by Red Badger

On July 27, 2018, the New York Times published a “fact check of the day” titled, “ No, Democrats Don’t Want ‘Open Borders.'”

The article was supposed to serve as a takedown of President Trump’s oft-repeated claim that Democratic lawmakers envision a world where America's borders are wide-open to all.

On Thursday, former Rep. Beto O'Rourke, D-Texas, said he would “absolutely” support destroying already existing barriers along the U.S. southern border.

The former congressman's remarks came as Trump announced he’d declare a national emergency to fund building a wall on the border shared with Mexico. Amid this announcement, Rep. Dan Crenshaw, R-Texas, asked of O'Rourke, "If you could snap your fingers and make El Paso’s border wall disappear, would you?"

Later that day, MSNBC’s Chris Hayes took up Crenshaw’s question, asking O'Rourke on-air: "Would you, if you could, would you take the wall down here — knock it down?"

"Yes, absolutely," said the former congressman and potential 2020 presidential candidate. "I'd take the wall down."

Hayes then asked whether he believed El Paso residents would back that move in a referendum.

"I do,” said O'Rourke.

One day later, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., who has already announced her 2020 candidacy, was asked whether she’d support an initiative like the one mentioned by the former Texas congressman.

“Well, I’d have to ask folks in that part of the of the country to see whether the fencing that exists today is helpful or unhelpful. But, you know, Democrats are not afraid of national security or border security,” she responded during a campaign stop in New Hampshire.

She added, “I could look at it and see which part he means and why and if it makes sense. I could support it.”

The New York senator stressed that Democrats have historically supported border security, adding her opposition to Trump’s proposed wall is based mostly on concerns for the community and the environment.

“Democrats have funded border security for decades and so it’s not a question of not wanting to keep the country safe, but what President Trump wants to do is build a medieval-style wall out of concrete and one that will destroy not just the community but the environment,” Gillibrand said.

She added, “And it is a hateful message. I mean he’s — he’s trying to create a picture of division and hate and derision. And that’s what I’m so offended by: the fact that he’s fused this kind of racism in, in his words and actions is just troubling.”

To be clear, Democrats are not for open borders — at least, according to the New York Times. It’s just that some of the party’s current and potential presidential candidates are giving serious consideration to destroying already existing barriers for, uh, reasons.


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First Beto O'Rourke and now Kirsten Gillibrand: Democrats mull destroying current barrier on southern border

1 posted on 02/18/2019 6:33:37 AM PST by Red Badger
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2 posted on 02/18/2019 6:35:05 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Red Badger

None of these malignant political POS’s care about you, me, illegal immigrants or borders. What it means when they say they are considering something like destroying the current barrier is that they are considering how well that will play to the base. Because the only thing that really matters is power. And being elected is the pathway.

What concerns me is that destroying the current barrier is a winning strategy among a considerable number of Americans.


3 posted on 02/18/2019 6:39:23 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: brownsfan

It’s a vote killer among Trump’s base. His stand on illegal border crossers may be why his ratings with Hispanics are rising.


4 posted on 02/18/2019 6:43:40 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: Red Badger

If they don’t support ICE, border walls, they need to be asked if they will also reject Secret Service protection, imho.


5 posted on 02/18/2019 6:45:09 AM PST by Sparky1776
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To: Red Badger

At least they are clearly identifying themselves as being on the side of the fraudulently documented foreigners, unlike the ones who wear R jerseys to fool people.


6 posted on 02/18/2019 6:45:47 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Red Badger

The thing to do now, and for the next 4-8-12 years, is drive the pendulum as far as we can (back to where it was at least before the usurper). Ultimately when the schizophrenic electorate puts ‘Rats back in power and undoes fundamental things like a secure border, then it’s time: it’s on.


7 posted on 02/18/2019 6:46:46 AM PST by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: Red Badger

Of course. They clearly want to dilute the our voices and rapidly change the demographics of America. This has been their goal for a long time, and they thought they’d reached the point of no return - but then along came Trump.


8 posted on 02/18/2019 6:47:07 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: LUV W; Jane Long

Beta O’Dork Ping.


9 posted on 02/18/2019 6:47:39 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: neverevergiveup

“They clearly want to dilute the our voices and rapidly change the demographics of America.”

I like the way Mark Steyn put it: The Democrats intend to dissolve the existing electorate and install a new one more favorable to their aims.


10 posted on 02/18/2019 6:50:02 AM PST by Junk Silver ("It's a little hard to herd people onto trains when they're shooting at you." SirLurkedalot)
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“Democrats have funded border security for decades and so it’s not a question of not wanting to keep the country safe, but what President Trump wants to do is build a medieval-style wall out of concrete and one that will destroy not just the community but the environment,” Gillibrand said.


My gosh, what a stupid argument. This woman is insane!
11 posted on 02/18/2019 6:50:05 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie ("The MSM is the enemy of the American people"...Democrat Pat Caddell)
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To: Red Badger

To this day I can’t hear/read the words “fact-check” without first bringing to mind that *&^$% Candy Crowley. What a fraud!

Not that anyone else in big media is any better.


12 posted on 02/18/2019 6:50:23 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Red Badger

Destruction of “MY” property.


13 posted on 02/18/2019 6:51:37 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Red Badger

Enemy media enemy politicians, release the kraken!!!(docs)These vomit spewing rats need to be indicted


14 posted on 02/18/2019 6:53:50 AM PST by ronnie raygun (nic dip.com)
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To: meatloaf

They do not care about the debt illegals create. They do not care about paying the debt off or the carrying costs they are placing on their children and grandchildren.


15 posted on 02/18/2019 6:54:11 AM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
In defense of the NY Times, the whole newspaper is made up of Partisan Media Shills and liars.

16 posted on 02/18/2019 6:57:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Travis McGee

Excellent graphic! Will share.

Also, Dems are selling out black Americans, LEGAL immigrants, etc., for these turd world moochers. Where is the outrage, for that??


17 posted on 02/18/2019 6:57:32 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Red Badger

How do these two a-holes plan on destroying a wall on our Southern Border?


18 posted on 02/18/2019 7:03:29 AM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: MichaelCorleone

‘Big Media’ doesn’t get much bigger than Candy Crowley....................


19 posted on 02/18/2019 7:04:54 AM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Sparky1776

This Rat primary season is going to be fun to watch as the candidates try to outdo each other courting their insane radical base. AOC will set the parameters of what is the democrat norm.


20 posted on 02/18/2019 7:10:43 AM PST by hardspunned
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