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Just breaking: Huge news, and bypassing the lower courts.
1 posted on 02/15/2019 12:46:12 PM PST by tcrlaf
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when was the citizenship question removed? I seem to recall seeing it years gone by.!


2 posted on 02/15/2019 12:47:42 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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I thought this had been decided already. It has been asked in the past on the census. It only makes sense to ask it.


3 posted on 02/15/2019 12:47:51 PM PST by BipolarBob (If attacked by a mob of clowns always go for the juggler.)
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Remember - judges aren’t political and for everything else Roberts has pushed thatbit goes through “the process” - now that the process was turning pro Trump Roberts deems it ok to get involved


4 posted on 02/15/2019 12:49:39 PM PST by Skywise
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Ruthie's on her way!


6 posted on 02/15/2019 12:51:42 PM PST by Phillyred
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Dems have a working plan:

Allow illegals to be counted in the Census same as citizens.

Offer Sanctuary and benefits to illegals.

Open the borders.

Increases Dems representation in Congress which also adds to their Electoral Votes.


7 posted on 02/15/2019 12:54:32 PM PST by NoLibZone (America's dead. Gone. Get used to it. The Trump admin has shown the experiment has ended.)
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What does John Roberts think? He’s evolved into the swing vote between the liberals and the more conservative justices.

I’m assuming that the four hard liberals will all vote that it is unconstitutional to ask about citizenship.

So John Roberts could well be the deciding vote.


8 posted on 02/15/2019 12:55:57 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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If the gov’t can send me a Census form pages long, well beyond a simple “how many live here”, and send a Census agent to my home to “remind” me there were more questions for me to answer beyond a simple “how many live here” (yes, literally happened, he was parked there waiting for me to come home, I told him “I answered what the Constitution requires” and he got the point from my tone that leaving was a good idea), and has enacted law fining people $100 for not answering all questions, then heck yeah they can ask “how many people living here are citizens?”

If SCOTUS rules that asking “how many living here are citizens?” is NOT allowed, then that will cause precedence for eliminating all other questions beyond “how many live here?”.


11 posted on 02/15/2019 1:22:07 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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So in some weird leftest legal theory universe, asking someone if they are legally in this country is...illegal??!!


15 posted on 02/15/2019 1:26:32 PM PST by fhayek
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Translation:

U.S. Supreme Court to decide legality of what's on census citizenship query

FIFY.

18 posted on 02/15/2019 1:32:51 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Cocked, locked and ready to ROCK!)
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Unless SCOTUS wants to claim citizenship is a “right to privacy” issue when asked by the same government that GRANTED the citizenship in the first place, I don’t see how there’s a constitutional issue here.


26 posted on 02/15/2019 1:58:43 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Trump is Making the Media Grate Again)
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The question appears on dozens of government forms and applications. If you cannot ask it on a census form, then why can you ask it on a college application, gun background check form, Medicaid/SSI form?


31 posted on 02/15/2019 2:25:06 PM PST by LukeL
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"The plaintiffs said the question would scare immigrants and Latinos into abstaining from the census, disproportionately affecting Democratic-leaning states."

Is there any bigger confession of their true motives?

34 posted on 02/15/2019 3:02:15 PM PST by fwdude (Think about it: Blacks were made slaves in Africa, but were made free men in America.)
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An earlier posting had the SCOTUS OK the Citizen question That question should stand

One thing the Mexican Constitution has that we should consider doing.Mexico has no hyphenated Mexicans. They prohibit any reference to race when they conduct a census or issue any means of identification, Where a physical description is needed skin color yes but not by race or nationality or tribal background.By doing this Mexico has avoided “balkanizing”, creating fractional disputes in areas where a given group in one of its states is a majority or a minority.

WHY ARE WE ALLOWING CITIZENS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES
ENTERING ILLEGALLY GRANTING THEM RIGHTS
THAT THEIR COUNTRY DENY US HAVING
WHEN ENTERING IT LEGALLY ???
It’s time we consider illegal entry by any person who is a non Mexican citizen illegally entering the United States through the US Mexican border a defacto Mexican citizen with limited Mexican constitutional rights subject to their laws while transiting. As well as any Mexican citizen doing so. Subject to reciprocal citizen treatment a citizen of the United States receives in Mexico through the Mexican constitution on citizenship .

Besides being unable to vote one must also be a citizen to own land and Mexico is very restrictive about granting citizenship. Because of that a US citizen besides not being able to vote,and cannot have title in their name to any land property in Mexico. And until that is changed the US and the affected state should consider making that reciprocal.prohibiting citizens of Mexico or countries with similar restrictions from doing both voting and land ownership..


39 posted on 02/15/2019 5:54:46 PM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record)
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It sure seems that SCOTUS jumps quickly to “review” something when the Dems aren’t getting their way in the legislatures or lower courts...


46 posted on 02/16/2019 4:31:14 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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Here would be a fun couple of questions, both for demographics and for annoying liberals:

Are you a:
- Native American (citizen)
- Naturalized citizen
- Lawful Permanent Resident
- Foreign owner of household/property
- None of the above

If you are not Native American, what country were/are you from?

If you are a Native American, are you:
- First Generation
- Second Generation
- Third Generation
- etc
- etc

What country(ies) are your ancestors from? (List all that you know)


49 posted on 02/16/2019 4:36:37 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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So they can ask you how many toilets you have, but what your citizenship status is ?
52 posted on 02/16/2019 7:17:56 AM PST by rdcbn
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I've spent time on the Census Bureau's website studying various income stats.Although I'm not thoroughly familiar with it it seems to me that the Bureau has lots and *lots* of data on Americans...presumably because many questions are asked (I don't talk to census takers).

Also,while doing serious family tree research I've seen that citizenship was listed on census reports of the early 1900s.

So I cannot see how this would be unconstitutional.

55 posted on 02/16/2019 8:57:03 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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Lemme guess...

Roberts will be a no.


56 posted on 02/16/2019 9:21:44 AM PST by Magnatron
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Don NOT ever count on winning an issue in the Judicial Branch. NEVER EVER
57 posted on 02/16/2019 11:50:09 AM PST by Cheerio ( #44, the UNKNOWN Manchurian Candidate)
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Future genealogists will want the info.


58 posted on 02/16/2019 12:01:35 PM PST by stylecouncilor (Dreg of Society)
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