Posted on 02/09/2019 12:16:08 PM PST by Hojczyk
Are electric vehicles the wave of the future, or expensive toys? This shocking news story–shocking if you live in the North, anyway–suggests the latter *** Many owners discovered the range limitations last week when much of the country was in the grips of a polar vortex. Owners of vehicles made by manufacturers including Tesla, the top-selling electric vehicle company in the U.S., complained on social media about reduced range and frozen door handles during the cold snap.
Frozen door handles are an annoyance not unique to electric cars, but reduced range can be life-threatening.
At 20 degrees, the average driving range fell by 12 percent when the car’s cabin heater was not used. When the heater was turned on, the range dropped by 41 percent, AAA said.
Of course, at 20 degrees you pretty much have to turn the heater on. T
Also, AAA tested the vehicles at 20 degrees above zero, a balmy temperature that we haven’t seen for a while here in the Twin Cities. What happens at 20 below, a temperature we have seen several times in the last week or two? Or eleven below, which it is at this moment where I live? A car whose range is severely compromised at such temperatures could be a death trap.
Advocates of “green” energy say that giant batteries will overcome the intractable problem of the intermittency–i.e., unreliability–of wind and solar energy. Of course, while batteries can power my laptop for six or eight hours, or a vehicle for a relatively short distance, no batteries exist that can power a city for six months, nor is any such technology on the horizon. But I wonder whether green energy advocates who toss around the word “batteries” much as they might say “magic” have considered the impact of cold weather.
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-—the principles of physics and chemistry win again—
Dammit, you aren't supposed to know that. Abiotic regeneration is a carefully guarded secret, limited to Conservatives, and others with an IQ of 100+.
Ask any Democrat about it. All you'll get is either a blank stare, or a furious denial.
That sounds about right. I wasn’t driving yet and either didn’t ask them a specific question about the heater or simply don’t remember. I was just intrigued at the idea that you would need to plug in your car because of the extreme cold.
Their family cat taught it itself to ring the doorbell in order to be let in the house. I guess he didn’t like the cold any more than the car did.
People have it wrong if they try to reason and debate with people like nazi, fauxohantas, aoc etc. These people have a different agenda, are ignorant of facts, their minds are made up, they think you are stupid and have nothing to offer useful, etc. You and your discussion are of absolutely no interest or use to them. This is what makes them so dangerous. They are simply ideologues and / or useful idiots to powers they don’t understand.
Do you or anyone else think that you could have changed Hitler’s mind about the Jews or anything else? How about Gobbels, Tojo, Mussolini, Stalin etc.?
These people are that evil or stupid. There is only one solution to them and that is to destroy them or exile them. We have neither the power or the will to do either. Their followers are just as stupid / evil as they are.
Let's see.
Who is paying ridiculous prices for a virtue signaling toy?
Who will die when they try to go 40 miles with the heater on, in sub-zero cold in three feet of snow?
Can I see a show of hands? Who would honestly miss them?
These climate zealots may want to consider what happens when the interglacial period stops and a full-blown ice age or glacial manifests itself again.
For the last million years or so we have seen 100,000 year cycles of 90,000 years of ice age followed by a roughly 10,000 year interglacial warm period. It has been 12,000 since the last glacial. Based on history we are overdue.
I notice the resident electric car fanboyz stay off these threads..........
“Beta Cells” would solve this as they would generate their own internal heat and provide a constant recharge to the batteries in a electric car.....
Sadly people would lose their crap over the fact they are “radioactive” ( Beta emitter light isotopes ) like sulfur 35.
Of course beta radiation can be blocked with a actual aluminum foil as it is just an electron...
I recall being in Minneapolis in the early ‘80s and they had electrical sockets on all the parking meters for plugging in your engine heaters.
And a parade of gasoline powered tow trucks following behind.
LOL. These electric car owners, getting stranded, waiting for an “evil fossil fueled” tow truck to save them. Nice irony.
And then there is the rush hour blizzard ... traffic becomes bumper to bumper and eventually stops altogether ... gas cars just keep the heater on and conserve fuel ... battery cars just ... look for the nearest gas car and hope someone will let them in for the duration ...
But of course-they cannot argue with Mother Nature. No matter how hard they try...
“gas cars just keep the heater on and conserve fuel ... “
Huh?
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I have several friends who have owned Model S Teslas since they first came out. The cars are their daily drivers.
All of them are Trump voters, so I don’t know why Team Freeper insists on pretending that Teslas are just expensive toys for leftists- you all need to get out more.
For California it’s a great car. There’s no oil changes, no smog inspections, they “fuel” in their own garages. And these cars are fast as hell if you’re into racing the CHP.
These guys have owned plenty of expensive cars, some a lot more expensive than the Tesla, so the subsidy wasn’t their reason for buying one.
Way out of my price range, but these are excellent cars for those who have the money and who don’t need to own a parka.
The engine block heaters were mostly freeze plug heaters and kept the coolant from freezing.
Wow! I am a conservative and I have an IQ over 100. YAH!!
Problem solved.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/DuraHeat-23-800-BTU-Indoor-Kerosene-Portable-Heater-DH2304S/304697729
Most of the grocery stores up there
have electrical outlets in the base
of their parking lot lamps also.
Dad didn’t have a block heater, he
placed a drop light (w/a 100w bulb)
under the hood at night.
Ponder this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEMujEvJvLE&t=16284s
This is a Youtube of a cross-country trip. LA, in the DPRK, to New York. It's 6 hours long. AT 15 TIMES actual speed. A Tesla wouldn't make it to Palm Springs. (It was 110 degrees in Needles.)
If the Stupids want to voluntarily imprison themselves in the DPRK, why should anyone care? Even if they claim intellect?
I think another problem is touching "stuff" under the hood if the car gets in an accident.
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