The E.U.: Hell hath no fury

American Thinker ^ | Nicholas J. Kaster

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In the midst of negotiations to implement Brexit, E.U. president Donald Tusk sneered that there was “a special place in hell” for those who pushed Brexit “without a plan,” a comment seemingly designed to foil an agreement.

The Brexiteers have responded in kind. Nigel Farage tweeted that after Brexit, “we will be free of unelected bureaucrats like you and run our own country.” He added, “Sounds more like heaven to me.”

Jacob Rees-Mogg, Conservative MP, said that Tusk’s comment “shows exactly why the British people rejected the EU in the first place.”

“Britain is implementing the will of the people,” wrote Rees-Mogg. “That is democracy, but Mr. Tusk represents bureaucracy, so is incapable of understanding the popular mood.”

Or perhaps he understands the popular mood too well. Back in October, a Washington Post financial writer wrote that “[t]he fear that Brexit could encourage more countries to leave gives the E.U. a powerful incentive to make Britain’s exit as unattractive as possible.” Viewed from this standpoint, the E.U.’s vindictiveness toward Britain serves as a message to any other member nation that contemplates withdrawing.

[Cronos]

yes, you're right about including Belgium, Sweden and the Netherlands. About France - not completely - there are still plenty of Maghrebin Arabs who have abandoned islam (mostly for agnosticism). The Netherlands also, to some extent, while the Danes have been blunt about destroying any potential ghettoisation (though the three still have problems)

The key factor is - how quickly can you get these people to abandon islam. If you take an Arab, an Algerian etc. and throw out their religion, they integrate.

I give you as proof the UK where Hindus, Sikhs and Christians from South Asia have integrated well, while Moslems haven't. The language and "race" and ethnicity are the same, and the only differentiator is religion, but you see 20% of the jail population are Mozzies compared to them being 5% of the population and even thought 4% of the population are Hindu, their prison % is close to 0 (with a few there for white collar crimes). The same for Sikhs and Christians

[Cronos]

As for Britain, I hope your pessimism will prove unfounded. Younger naive idealistic people often have a fondness for socialism. They tend to become far less enamored of it as they grow older, get jobs and start paying taxes. I hope the same thing happens in the UK and happens again in the US like it did before.

The problem in the UK is that it's not just the young. The young are screwed in many ways by impossible house prices and low paying jobs and opportunities, but the older folks are also heavily pro-socialist.

[Cronos]

But the social welfare in the UK is far higher as a percentage of GDP and of government spending than every other country in the EU.

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The elites want serfs to tend their babies and gardens while the new nobility jet sets to wherever-or a heavily guarded private island.

Same thing’s happening here. The US is the last stronghold against NWO. Soros has said so, and both Russia and China are helping to organize these so-called caravans.

Donna Brazile even said the US should go the way of S. Africa. I bet she meant that and knew what she was talking about.

[Sa-teef]

"But the social welfare in the UK is far higher as a percentage of GDP and of government spending than every other country in the EU."

That's quite possible; I don't know.

But those benefits should be available to the people who the citizens and their elected representatives want in the country, not whoever the un-elected bureaucrats in Brussels decide should be in the UK.

You were talking trade before and the UK has done a fine job of that over many centuries. They will continue doing so in my opinion.

Citizens and their local & nationally elected representatives deserve to write the rules about immigration.

[Cronos]

The current rules for social welfare are that you get coverage based on you putting in certain amounts during your lifetime or if you are a citizen then you get it based on disabilities etc.

No Pole or Romanian went to the UK to live off social welfare

And it isn't bureaucrats in Brussels deciding who should be in the UK - the EU rules are that EU citizens can work and live anywhere. They get social welfare as per what they have worked or which citizens they are of. The "unelected bureaucrats in Brussels" don't decide this

The UK DID a fine job of trade from the late 1680s until the 1940s. Before the 1680s they did not do a "fine job of trade" and after WWII they went full blown socialist and sucked at trading.

They may do well again, but that depends on the country's leadership, it's unity and it's people -- the leadership is terrible, either waffling like May or communist like Corbyn; the unity is iffy in the case of NI and Scotland; and the people's attitude is socialist

They can overcome this, if they want, but I'm not holding my breath

[Cronos]

The Brits will be setting their own immigration rules

No more Christians from Central Europe. Let's get more Muzzies from Pakiland