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A Woman Explains Why Women Shouldn’t Be In Combat Units, And She's Got A Point
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| 01/15/2019
| Jazz Shaw
Posted on 01/15/2019 10:18:21 AM PST by SeekAndFind
While this subject has largely fallen into the “settled” category for the most part, it’s still being brought up for discussion among the public. We’re once again talking about women in combat. Back during the Obama administration, Ash Carter was directed to open all combat roles to women. At the time, we were assured that female recruits would have to meet the same physical standards as their male counterparts. Slowly but sure, however, that principle was eroded.
As Heather Mac Donald writes in the Wall Street Journal (subscription required), the standards did indeed change. But even with those relaxed standards, only two women have made it through the U.S. Marines’ infantry officer training course.
Only two women have passed the Marine Corpss fabled infantry-officer training course out of the three dozen who have tried. Most wash out in the combat endurance test, administered on day one. Participants hike miles while carrying combat loads of 80 pounds or more, climb 20-foot ropes multiple times, and scale an 8-foot barrier. The purpose of the test is to ensure that officers can hump their own equipment and still arrive at a battleground mentally and physically capable of leading troops.
Most female aspirants couldnt pass the test, so the Marines changed it from a pass/fail requirement to an unscored exercise with no bearing on the candidates ultimate evaluation. The weapons-company hike during the IOC is now gender neutral, meaning that officers can hand their pack to a buddy if they get tired, rather than carrying it for the courses full 10 miles.
Lowering these physical requirements risks reducing the American militarys lethality. A more serious effect of sex integration has become taboo to mention: the inevitable introduction of eros into combat units. Putting young, hormonally charged men and women into stressful close quarters for extended periods guarantees sexual liaisons, rivalries and breakups, all of which undermine the bonding essential to a unified fighting force.
We had those physical standards for combat troops for a reason. You need to be able to handle those grueling conditions if you’re expected to go into a combat zone. Weakening them, as Mac Donald points out, risks lessening the lethal capabilities and rapid response abilities of our armed forces. Rather than empowering and advancing women, we’re degrading our combat effectiveness.
As regular readers already know, I’m one of those dinosaurs who is opposed to sending women into combat even if they can match the men’s physical standards. (Something I wrote at length about six years ago, admitting my own hypocrisy and double standard on this issue.) I come from a time where war was a primal – and entirely male – undertaking, filled with a duty to “protect our women back home.” Further, while imprisonment by the enemy is a horrific prospect for anyone, it’s especially bad for women as they will almost certainly fall victim to rape as a weapon of war, particularly when fighting terrorists that are little better than animals. Actually, that last sentence is an insult to animals.
I seem to have lost that debate. So be it. But if we must have women in combat roles, I think Heather Mac Donald has it exactly right. They should have to meet the same physical standards that the men have traditionally been subjected to. Demanding any less is not a victory for women. It’s a loss for our military and the nation’s security.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: combat; military; militaryreadiness; militarywomen; trumpdod; usmc; women; womenincombat
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To: SeekAndFind
It is well established that enemy snipers target smaller figures, anticipating they’re women, and knowing that other targets will rush to her aid.
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posted on
01/15/2019 10:24:49 AM PST
by
G Larry
(There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
To: SeekAndFind
“At the time, we were assured that female recruits would have to meet the same physical standards as their male counterparts.”
I remember the very first words out of their mouths were “standards will not be lowered.”
When I heard that I knew plans were in place to lower standards.
To: SeekAndFind
The military seems to have concluded that the next war will be won in a UAV command center in Nevada and all the other stuff is window dressing to keep the tax dollars flowing. Maybe they are right...
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posted on
01/15/2019 10:27:55 AM PST
by
Mr. Jeeves
([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
To: G Larry
There are overwhelming cultural reasons why the very idea of women in combat units should be rejected out of hand--as indeed there is for every other compulsion driven program that implies the sexes are interchangeable.
All human life depends upon the profound differences between the sexes.
Women Hostage To Contrived Delusion
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posted on
01/15/2019 10:31:52 AM PST
by
Ohioan
To: SeekAndFind
To: SeekAndFind
I am a Former Marine Sgt and and combat veteran. I spent 4 years in the infantry, then 3 in the air wing which was mixed sex.
The biggest thing I noticed was not that most of the females would quit both physically and mentally before most of the men, but that when it happened, the best of the men get all chivalrous about it rendering the unit down not 1-2 Marines, but 3-4. These were always the best of the men, incapacitated at the sight of a crying/hurt/panicking/whining female. Heroes neutered.
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posted on
01/15/2019 10:45:24 AM PST
by
SENTINEL
(Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
To: Ohioan
Thank you. So many, even at FR, seem not to get this. A country that sees nothing wrong with sending women into combat is a country detached from what it means to be human. Countries like that are not worth fighting for.
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posted on
01/15/2019 10:49:44 AM PST
by
Romulus
To: SENTINEL
...These were always the best of the men, incapacitated at the sight of a crying/hurt/panicking/whining female. I completely agree with that. Soldiers are trained to carry out the mission, even as their fellow soldiers are cut down all around them. You continue on with the mission and let the medics deal with the casualties.
However, women change that whole dynamic. Just as women are wired to protect their children at all costs, men are similarly wired to protect their women. I cannot envision a battlefield scenario where I leave a woman behind who has been seriously hurt. My first instinct will be to help and protect her.
To: SeekAndFind
This is the definitive piece, IMO:
"Women in Combat-A Question of Standards" by Jude Eden
Jude Eden was a female Marine who just lays out the truth. (I think the article was from 2015 and discusses charges by a female Marine 1st Lt. Sage Santangello in the Washington Post who alleged women are discouraged from meeting the physical standards...which Jude Eden debunks thoroughly.)
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posted on
01/15/2019 10:55:14 AM PST
by
rlmorel
(Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
To: SeekAndFind
The main reason why women traditionally were not soldiers is that women carry babies and become mothers. Motherhood occupies a woman’s time full time for years!
Women are not optimized for battle.
The military is run by a$$holes for lowering the standards to please feminazis.
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posted on
01/15/2019 10:55:28 AM PST
by
I want the USA back
(Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
To: SeekAndFind
I completely agree with this piece. But I'm afraid nothing will change until we go through a war where women are raped and tortured when captured and start coming home terribly maimed.
And that assumes we win. We're definitely degrading the combat effectiveness of these units.
To: Romulus
A country that sees nothing wrong with sending women into combat is a country detached from what it means to be human.
I sort of agree. My niece was an Army nurse in Mosul. She came home with PTSD after seeing horrifically burned bodies and such in the emergency room. Then she got a civilian job, got married, had children. She is overly protective of her kids and still has nightmares of war. A woman who is going to be carrying and nurturing life should perhaps not see horrors like this. She should be protected from this. It is important for her family’s well-being, not only her own.
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posted on
01/15/2019 10:58:08 AM PST
by
married21
( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
To: Romulus
Here is another essay of mine, in support of normal sex roles:
Feminist War On Love & ReasonAnd here is why, in my opinion, Clinton should have been impeached:
Abuse Of Power. (The Presidential role with respect to the military, was never intended to be to promote Egalitarian day dreams.)
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posted on
01/15/2019 10:59:59 AM PST
by
Ohioan
To: Ohioan
Here was the key passage from the article I posted:
Check out this article, written by a female Marine. It is VERY well written and unsparing.
"...Meanwhile, the argument to maintain the combat exclusion makes itself easily in every aspect...including women in combat units is bad for combat, bad for women, bad for men, bad for children, and bad for the country. The argument for the combat exclusion is provable all the time, every time. Political correctness has no chance against Nature. Her victories are staring us in the face at all times. The men just keep being able to lift more and to run faster, harder, and longer with more weight on their backs while suffering fewer injuries. They just keep never getting pregnant. The combat units have needs that women cannot meet. Women have needs that life in a combat unit cannot accommodate without accepting significant disadvantage and much greater expense. Where 99 percent of men can do the heavy-lifting tasks typical of gunners, but 85 percent of women cannot, there is no gap women need to fill..."
That pretty much sums it up.
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posted on
01/15/2019 11:01:03 AM PST
by
rlmorel
(Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
To: Mr. Jeeves
To: colorado tanker
The left WANTS the women to be raped. And they WISH they could be the ones to do it. Then they could do their next favorite thing, order the women to get abortions.
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posted on
01/15/2019 11:07:53 AM PST
by
subterfuge
(RIP T.P.)
To: rlmorel
Agreed, but the strongest argument of all is that the Chivalric code, which this combat integration rejects, is what brings out the “above & beyond” aspect of male heroism. Losing that incentive is irrparable.
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posted on
01/15/2019 11:07:53 AM PST
by
Ohioan
To: SeekAndFind
As a woman, I completely agree. Our male soldiers do not need to be distracted on the battlefield. Female soldiers do that, no question.
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posted on
01/15/2019 11:11:04 AM PST
by
grateful
To: Ohioan
I agree, just came at that from another perspective. Agree completely.
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posted on
01/15/2019 11:17:39 AM PST
by
rlmorel
(Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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