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Would Declaring a “National Emergency” to Build Trump’s Border Wall Set A Dangerous Precedent?
Big League Politics ^ | January 14, 2019 | Jonathon A Moseely

Posted on 01/14/2019 8:13:47 AM PST by Moseley

Would a declaration of an emergency to build a border wall create a bad precedent? At the end of the last week, much of the political discussion here in Washington, D.C. in talk shows, statements from Congressmen and in conservative publications focused on warnings of how a future Democrat President might abuse a similar process to push left-wing policies.

If Trump can declare an emergency to build the border wall, could a future Democrat President Chelsea Clinton declare an emergency and take people’s guns or force or enact legislation to fight the myth of man-made climate change. No, “that’s not how any of this works.”

These concerns are understandable but misinformed. Those raising concerns really have not investigated what is involved.

Those who generally talk the Republican party out of actually winning year after year raise fears of legislative action by a Democrat president. There is nothing in the National Emergencies Act of 1976, declaring emergency, or anything that President Trump and supporters are suggesting that relates in any way to creating legislation. That is why President Barack Hussein Obama acted illegally by expanding the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA). That was a legislative change.

With the border wall, Trump will merely be spending money on a border wall that Congress has already voted to build and which is mandatory under existing statutes. A president cannot create new legislative policy.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: borderwall; emergency; military; trump
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Congress has given every president — including even President Donald Trump — the power to declare a national emergency under various statutes including under 50 U.S.C. 1621 and 50 U.S.C. 1622. Ever heard that a president declared a national emergency because massive tornadoes struck a rural town or a hurricane hit New York City or there are wildfires in California? Those are routine declarations of emergencies.

But there must be specific laws that get “switched on” under a presidential declaration. This does not allow a president just to make things up out of whole cloth. This does not give a president any power to enact legislation or create any new rules. It only activates what is already written in laws already passed by Congress and signed into law in the past.

A president is required to identify which existing legislation he or she is activating in the text of the emergency declaration. A declaration of an emergency is not something that can just be pulled out of the blue sky. It is tied to specific legislation.

Existing laws give Trump the authority to “reprogram” money appropriated for the U.S. Department of Defense to construction of some or all of a border wall along our nations’ international border with Mexico. The most directly applicable is 33 U.S. Code § 2293 “Reprogramming during national emergencies.” Other statutes include 10 U.S. Code §2803 and 10 U.S. Code §2808.

In fact, there are more than 100 statutes that are triggered when a president declares a national emergency, writes Elizabeth Goiten, Co-Director for Liberty & National Security for the Brennan Center. Those are statutes passed by Congress.

Under existing statutes and his powers as President, Trump could use some of the $700 billion appropriated for the military one year ago in the very large and controversial omnibus spending bill. At the time, a year ago, Trump was already hinting (repeatedly) that he agreed to such a large spending bill specifically because some of that money could build a border wall.

Second, Congress has already voted that here shall be a barrier the entire length of the U.S. – Mexico border. Trump’s border wall has already been authorized. But more than that, a border wall is mandatory. It is not optional. It is not maybe. It is required.

In 2006, Congress enacted and President George W. Bush signed into law, the Secure Fence Act of 2006. That is the official determination of both the U.S. Congress and the Commander in Chief. Therefore, Trump would be acting to see to it that the existing law be faithfully executed.

Despite the word “fence” in the title, the law does not necessarily mandate a “fence.” The wording of the Act requires a barrier customized to the particular terrain in each location to the extent necessary to “the prevention of all unlawful entries into the United States, including entries by terrorists, other unlawful aliens, instruments of terrorism, narcotics, and other contraband.” So the Secure Fence Act of 2006 requires building “whatever it takes” — not a “fence” per se.

1 posted on 01/14/2019 8:13:47 AM PST by Moseley
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To: Moseley
Freep this poll

And the survey at American Thinker web site:

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/01/free_speech_is_dead_in_canada_the_persecution_of_christian_activist_bill_whatcott.html

Should President Trump send troops to the border to stop the caravan?

Yes 92% (13,436)

No 7% (1,083)

Not sure 1%

2 posted on 01/14/2019 8:17:58 AM PST by spokeshave2 (https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall.... $20,492,131 of $1.0B goal by 343,356 people in 28 days)
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He just needs to enumerate all of Obama’s ‘States of Emergency’ and he will get the People to support it.

Big Media is giving the Dems total cover.....the People need to be informed of the truth!


3 posted on 01/14/2019 8:19:32 AM PST by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell)
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To: Moseley

I suppose it could be like the use of force procedures. Require some Congressional authorization after the fact.

You can see how well that has worked in stopping Presidents from ordering war.


4 posted on 01/14/2019 8:21:14 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Moseley

The biggest takeover of private power was by FDR during the depression and WW II. President Trump would be using 0.1% of the power that FDR grabbed 75 years ago.


5 posted on 01/14/2019 8:22:16 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Moseley

Trumps already been replacing the word “wall” with alternatives including “whatever” so as to possibly un-trigger the pansies, but I think more likely to ridicule the semantics game the left is playing.


6 posted on 01/14/2019 8:23:00 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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To: Moseley

After the government’s been shut down a year Trump should declare a “National Emergency”... That way the Court’s -like the 9th - will step in to stop it. The law will be debated making it much harder for democrats’ to abuse the law in the future.


7 posted on 01/14/2019 8:24:03 AM PST by GOPJ (Replace furloughed government workers with illegals for ten bucks an hour. Show dems how it feels.)
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To: Moseley

It doesn’t matter what Trump does or doesn’t do. The Rats will declare a national emergency whenever they feel like it.


8 posted on 01/14/2019 8:28:43 AM PST by ryderann
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To: Blue Collar Christian

!!!!
Maybe he should call it an artistic protect of soemthing.
:)


9 posted on 01/14/2019 8:36:35 AM PST by Moseley (http://www.MoseleyComments.com)
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To: BenLurkin

:)


10 posted on 01/14/2019 8:37:30 AM PST by Moseley (http://www.MoseleyComments.com)
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To: ryderann

Good point. I forgot that point


11 posted on 01/14/2019 8:38:32 AM PST by Moseley (http://www.MoseleyComments.com)
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To: Moseley

FNC reported the other day that even Pres. Carter still has two active national emergencies that are ongoing.


12 posted on 01/14/2019 8:38:32 AM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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“Article 4, Section 4 offers no discretion or decision by the U.S. Government. A response is mandatory. Border incursions by violent drug smugglers, terrorists, and other criminals are the primary issue here. The U.S. Government is Constitutionally required to secure the borders. The Texas legislature should invoke Article 4, Section 4 by voting for an official request. President Trump would be acting pursuant to a constitutional obligation to defend the border.”

Excellent article and worthy suggestion for Texas or any state really, because citizens in every state are being put at risk by our porous suthern border.


13 posted on 01/14/2019 8:50:32 AM PST by unlearner (War is coming.)
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To: Moseley

Not a bad idea. And he should make sure to hire a diverse designer force complete with transgender identifying whatevers of color.

It’s more than a twofer.


14 posted on 01/14/2019 8:51:16 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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To: Moseley
Like the Dems would only do that if Trump did it first. Stupid premise.
Besides we've had dozens of States Of Emergency declared, so hardly a precedent.
15 posted on 01/14/2019 8:57:29 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the Left, The truth is Right Wing Extremism.)
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To: unlearner

A response is mandatory. Border incursions by violent drug smugglers, terrorists, and other criminals are the primary issue here.

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Even if these people are non-violent, the very act of entering a nation without permission is illegal. Done in large numbers it is akin to an invasion. If nations cannot enforce their borders, then they are not nations. Left-wingers may hypothetically like to live in that world, but that is because they have not adequately thought about (or experienced) the consequences of “no” nations”.


16 posted on 01/14/2019 9:00:50 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Moseley

“President Obama seems ready to work around Congress in 2014, telling reporters before his first Cabinet meeting of the year Tuesday that he stood ready to use two tools, a pen and a phone, to provide help for Americans.”

When he said this, what a great American.

When Trump says he can go around Congress, what a traitor.


17 posted on 01/14/2019 9:04:05 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: Moseley

Keep an open border will only allow more caravans, and they won’t just be from south of the border, they will flood in by ship from other countries.
But of course its already happening, the media suppresses that.


18 posted on 01/14/2019 9:12:19 AM PST by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best)
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To: Bishop_Malachi

“Left-wingers may hypothetically like to live in that world, but that is because they have not adequately thought about (or experienced) the consequences”

The leftwing politicians sell their socialism by demonizing the “rich” (which they are themselves) and promoting class warfare. They advocate taking from the rich to give to the poor.

What the average leftwing voters fails to realize is that, by world standards, THEY are the rich. Half the world lives on $2 / day. Open borders means taking money and resources from the “rich” $10 / hour or $15 / hour worker, to give their earnings to the poor of the world.

Of course, it will always be necessary to have rich, elite Democrats to fairly administer this transfer of wealth.


19 posted on 01/14/2019 9:19:27 AM PST by unlearner (War is coming.)
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To: Moseley

the us has declared 58 national emergencies since 1979- 31 still remain in effect-


20 posted on 01/14/2019 9:27:33 AM PST by Bob434
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