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Israeli guns laws need to change significantly
Times of Isreal ^ | 1*13*19 | Shlomo Alegra

Posted on 01/13/2019 5:06:58 PM PST by SJackson

In order for any private citizen to be able to buy a gun, you have to either live in what the government considers a dangerous area or have been a combat soldier.

I believe every single citizen should be able to purchase a gun regardless of where they reside.

Terrorism can strike anywhere in the country and it doesn’t matter whether you are in Hebron or Tel Aviv.

For the most part every time a terrorist attempted an attack he has always been stopped by an armed civilian.

Guns make communities safer as a deterrent since terrorists won’t attack a hard target the is normally armed.

If civilians would have been armed in Paris during the terror attacks there would not have been the amount of casualties that resulted from the attacks.

Reservists soldiers are the back bone of the Israeli army if every reservist soldier could buy his own rifle and pistol the preparedness of the army would be much higher because in order for anyone to be a good marksman it requires practice.

Proliferation of more rifles and pistols to the civilian population would law people year around to go to the shooting range.

Over time the average Israeli soldier’s marksmanship would improve so much that we would be winning medals on the international competition arena for shooting.

When it comes to American and Israeli gun laws obviously America wins because far more Americans are able to get guns than Israelis are able to acquire.

Israelis are far more comfortable seeing people walk around with pistols and rifles than Americans are, if I were to walk around in America like I walk around in Israel I would be stopped by a law enforcement officer.

Israel has its own version of Stand Your Ground Law called the Drori Law.

According to an article in 2007 in Ynet.com around 2.7 percent of private citizens actually had private guns which is a lot less than the US.

Israel did recently relax the process for anyone to get a hand gun as long as they were a combat soldier in the army.

However, the amount of people that were combat soldiers is a very little amount of people.

I was a combat soldier so for me I do not have any problem at all getting a gun, not only do I have a pistol and a rifle but the process to get them were really easy and smooth.

For many other people they are not as lucky as I am that they are even able to be approved for a fire arm.

All Jews need to know how to defend themselves and even if they did not serve in a combat unit everyone is more than capable of learning very basic techniques about how to respond to active shooters or knife attackers

One of the other issues with going to the range is that it is also very expensive to even go out and shoot because most people do not regularly go out to the range.

If more people would go out to the range the prices to use the range and bullets would decrease dramatically.

During the murder of Ari Fuld two other people were shooting at the terrorist, including Ari Fuld there was a total of three people shooting the terrorist and instead of killing him they managed to wound him.

This is a disgrace that we are a country where army service is mandatory and yet a lot of people walking around with pistols can not shoot straight.

For the sake of our own national security and the possibility of growing a gun industry for the domestic market in Israel.

Relaxing the restrictions further on who can get a gun would greatly benefit Israeli society as a whole.

There still has to be background checks and psychological checks before someone is approved to have a gun and once they finally buy a gun they should buy a safe to keep them locked up when they are not carrying them to avoid it falling into the wrong hands.

About the Author

Shlomo was born in Florida and moved to Israeli in 2012, he holds a degree from Florida Atlantic University in Political Science, served in the IDF as a combat soldier and is a current reservist in the Golani Brigade.


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1 posted on 01/13/2019 5:06:58 PM PST by SJackson
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While I don't disagree, it's not really our business. Two things struck me.

not only do I have a pistol and a rifle but the process to get them were really easy and smooth

Yes, A pistol and A rifle, one each. Adequate for self defense I suppose, but a world away from the US. I know, our gun culture is evil.

Israelis are far more comfortable seeing people walk around with pistols and rifles than Americans are, if I were to walk around in America like I walk around in Israel I would be stopped by a law enforcement officer.

And yet Americans are more comfortable with gun ownership. As long as the folks carrying are concealed carriers. A bit of disfunction on both sides there.

2 posted on 01/13/2019 5:11:19 PM PST by SJackson (The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself)
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Ah, so can or should any “citizen” have right to purchase gun? We’ve got that here in the US, sort of. Guess Israel would not want to arm the majority of population that is not Jewish—the Muslims and Christians and others, just out of speculation. The whole gun rights issue will bring into focus the cracks in democracy, equal rights of citizens, and so forth. And what about the occupied areas? Messy. Glad all we’ve got to deal with in the US are places like California, New York, New Jersey, and DC. On the latter, Congress should step in and validate any state-issued CCW to be valid in DC.


3 posted on 01/13/2019 5:11:52 PM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: SJackson
Like these folks?

Meanwhile_In_Israel

4 posted on 01/13/2019 5:13:00 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SJackson
I, want a girl; Just, like the girl that...


5 posted on 01/13/2019 5:13:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SJackson

Fwiw, EVERY peaceful citizen of Israel AND of the USA should be able to carry any conventional firearm that they CHOOSE to carry.

In almost every case, Israeli citizens have served in the Armed Forces or the various police formations.
(IF they have large numbers of Israeli veterans walking about while armed & who cannot shoot their handgun/rifle competently, perhaps Israel’s armed forces reserve component should be helping the common citizens with their marksmanship.)

Yours, TMN78247


6 posted on 01/13/2019 5:14:16 PM PST by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: Elsie; SaveFerris

“I wish they all could be double-barreled guns.”


7 posted on 01/13/2019 5:15:05 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Reno89519
Guess Israel would not want to arm the majority of population that is not Jewish—the Muslims and Christians and others, just out of speculation.,/i>

Nothing to do with religion. Basically a carryover of Mandate law, lot's of Israel's laws are carryovers from the Brits and Turks. Been liberalized a bit over the years, but without going into details essentially you need to demonstrate need or be a veteran, military or police. And one handgun and maybe one rifle. Neither a culture nor a right as it is in the US.

8 posted on 01/13/2019 5:17:24 PM PST by SJackson (The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself)
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To: dfwgator

Don’t forget the full auto bullets.


9 posted on 01/13/2019 5:19:02 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: SJackson
Well, when you live in a country smaller in size then the state of Delaware and you're surrounded by several nations full of backward ,racist murdering troglodytes who follow a 7th. form of barbarism masquerading as a ''religion'' that has commanded said troglodytes to kill you all, I should think there would be a law that says every one who can walk and talk must carry a gun.
10 posted on 01/13/2019 5:19:23 PM PST by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Reno89519

“Glad all we’ve got to deal with in the US are places like California, New York, New Jersey, and DC.”

And Connecticut, Maryland, Delaware, then the major areas of certain states like nw Arkansas, Denver, philly, etc.

Things are still ok, but don’t get lulled into a state of acceptance.


11 posted on 01/13/2019 5:23:41 PM PST by Celerity
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To: Elsie

OK, we’re missing pix of Israeli girl reservists in bikinis with M-4’s switching across their butts.

Rules......


12 posted on 01/13/2019 5:25:32 PM PST by elcid1970 (My gun safe is saying, "Room for one more, honey!")
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To: jmacusa

It’s worked very well for Switzerland for almost 300 years.


13 posted on 01/13/2019 5:26:02 PM PST by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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To: elcid1970

“Rules’’ Yes. Hear, Hear. What have if we haven’t rules, eh?


14 posted on 01/13/2019 5:30:28 PM PST by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: SJackson

They live among people who have no greater desire than to kill all Jews. If they are not going to kick those people out, they should at least arm themselves.


15 posted on 01/13/2019 5:34:42 PM PST by umgud
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To: elcid1970
> OK, we’re missing pix of Israeli girl reservists in bikinis with M-4’s switching across their butts. <

Let's try to keep this thread classy. Anyway...


16 posted on 01/13/2019 5:35:11 PM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: SJackson

“Israeli guns laws need to change significantly”

In a country full of Charles Schumers? Good luck.


17 posted on 01/13/2019 5:41:11 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Reno89519

“Congress should step in and validate any state-issued CCW to be valid in DC.”

Over Schumer and Pelosi’s dead bodies.


18 posted on 01/13/2019 5:54:37 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Israelis are far more comfortable seeing people walk around with pistols and rifles than Americans are, if I were to walk around in America like I walk around in Israel I would be stopped by a law enforcement officer.

And yet Americans are more comfortable with gun ownership. As long as the folks carrying are concealed carriers. A bit of disfunction on both sides there.

Yet we have significant numbers of people, on this forum, complaining about how bad it is for Americans to open carry.

19 posted on 01/13/2019 6:01:33 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Elsie

I see ear plug but no safety glasses, Els. Never get away with that in my gun club . . .


20 posted on 01/13/2019 6:19:14 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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