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Lindsey Graham Trying To Put Together Last-Ditch Deal To End Shutdown (Spell: A-M-N-E-S-T-Y?)
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| 01/10/2019
| Allahpundit
Posted on 01/10/2019 9:25:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Does the deal involve a word that begins with “A” and ends with “mnesty”? No ending to an Ann-Coulter-led push for a big fight over the wall would be more ironic than Trump agreeing to amnestize a few millions DREAMers to resolve it.
Also, does POTUS realize that the entire reason Graham has been so gung ho on fighting for the wall lately is because he hoped/expected it would lead to a DREAM deal? I know you know that because you’ve been following immigration politics and Graham’s squishy role in it for years. I’m asking if Trump knows. Graham, I think, viewed this standoff as an opportunity from day one to get something for righties that they covet so dearly that they might agree to DREAM in exchange for it, especially under these particular circumstances. The more the political pressure surrounding the shutdown builds, the more important it is for Trump to “win” by getting the wall any way he can. Graham’s trying to exploit that dynamic, believing that it’ll momentarily make him and populists more amenable to DREAM.
It’s not going to matter, though. The only way this sh*tshow ends now is with an emergency declaration and the government reopening.
After Trump stormed out of a White House meeting with congressional leaders, GOP senators [Graham, Collins, Murkowski, Tillis, Alexander, Portman] privately gathered in Sen. Lindsey Graham’s office Wednesday to discuss a way out of the logjam. The long-shot idea: propose an immigration deal that would include $5.7 billion for Trump’s border wall along with several provisions that could entice Democrats.
Those items include changes to help those who are a part of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program as well as immigrants from El Salvador and other countries impacted by the Temporary Protected Status program – along with modifications to H-2B visas…
GOP senators pitched the idea to senior White House adviser Jared Kushner, who said if they came up with a proposal that got Trump his border wall money and could pass the Senate, the White House would be open to more discussions on the matter, the source said. He did not say Trump would endorse such a plan.
That’s as close as Kushner could get to a hard no without actually using the word. Why would any Senate Republican, let alone Senate Democrat, take a tough vote on a deal that’s bound to annoy both sides without a guarantee up front from the White House that Trump would support it?
Graham’s other problem is finding seven Senate Democrats to cross the aisle who are facing such tough reelections in 2020 that they’d conclude they’re better off stabbing their own party in the back by voting with Republicans. That might have worked three months ago, when a bunch of red-state Dems were staring down the barrel of a tough midterm. But most of those people have now either been safely reelected (Manchin, Tester) or sent home (McCaskill, Nelson). The only red-state Democrat under serious threat of defeat in 2020 is Doug Jones and he’s probably a goner no matter how he votes on the shutdown. Even if you include purple-staters like Tina Smith and Gary Peters, you’re still not close to the 60-vote threshold. And that assumes all Republicans would support Graham’s deal. Anyone think Tom Cotton will vote for it? How about Ted Cruz?
I assume Graham’s calculating that the shutdown will soon be so onerous to so many Americans that senators from both parties will be scrambling for any way to end it. But the obvious outcome in that scenario is an avalanche in favor of a clean spending bill that can be passed immediately, not some complicated “wall-for-amnesty” deal with all sorts of moving parts that would need to be bargained over. They’d have to pass a short-term stopgap bill to reopen government while Graham’s bill is negotiated, with the looming prospect of another shutdown if they can’t agree. And neither side ultimately has an incentive to do it. Pelosi’s resolved to flex her legislative muscle by refusing to give Trump a wall no matter what he offers in return. And Trump thinks he has an ace in the hole in the form of an emergency decree that would let him fund the wall with Pentagon money without giving Democrats anything. Neither side needs to give up anything and lose face in the process for this embarrassing episode to end, so they won’t.
Here he is this morning. Note to any White House advisors: Maybe pull him aside and try to explain that the longer he waits on an emergency decree and the more transparent he is about using it as negotiating leverage, the easier it’s going to be for a judge to say there’s no real emergency within the scope of the law.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; amnestypimps; borderwall; graham; grahamnesty; illegals; invaders; invasion; lindagraham; lindsaygraham; shutdown
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To: SeekAndFind
Agreeing to a Dreamer deal would be bad in and of itself, but to do so for only $5.7B rather than the full price of the wall plus 10% would be asinine.
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posted on
01/10/2019 10:59:49 AM PST
by
falcon99
To: SeekAndFind
DO NOT TRUST LINDA. HE/SHE IS A SNAKE.
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posted on
01/10/2019 11:01:20 AM PST
by
ZULU
(Impeach John Roberts for corruption. SOROS IS "SPARTACUS" BOOKER'S LANISTA.)
To: Old Retired Army Guy
“Will somebody please tell me if trump can FAST TRACK to the Supreme Court a final decision on declaring National Emergency to build the wall.”
Believe or not, the SCROTUS does not run the country nor do they have a say in the matter.
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posted on
01/10/2019 11:03:55 AM PST
by
Electric Graffiti
(Cocked, locked and ready to ROCK!)
To: DoodleDawg
4. Liberal activists go to the courts to shut down Trump’s emergency order.
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posted on
01/10/2019 11:12:51 AM PST
by
Valpal1
To: Lurkinanloomin
Nope. Per law the dreamers are here legally. I don’t think you’ll ever see 2,000,000 of any race or nationality being rounded up.
Unless it’s the liberals attempting to round up conservatives.
To: SeekAndFind
The most conservative Republicans have had a great deal planned for a long time. It would include the wall and other border security improvements, *the diversity lottery being stopped,* a decrease in family-based immigration to only members of nuclear families (American sponsors’ spouses and kids only) and other good measures. And yes, it would include many of those who already grew up here since childhood staying, *but that’s going to happen anyway.*
Most people want that deal. But some of the noisier political folks want no deal at all and want open borders while pretending to want all immigration stopped. We recognize several of them as open borders libertarians who have taken it upon themselves to stop any deal from happening. They’re so *concerned,* you know.
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posted on
01/10/2019 11:17:15 AM PST
by
familyop
("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
To: SeekAndFind
I have a sickening feeling that we are gong to get screwed again as always like Lucy and the football.
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posted on
01/10/2019 11:17:45 AM PST
by
shanover
(...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
To: JimRed
That’s funny!
“Hey, Joe! What’s the size requirement”?
“How tall is he”?
“Three feet”!
“Too little! Throw him back and let him grow a little more”!
To: SeekAndFind
The wall first. Then the diversity lottery. Republicans have been losing to Democrat incrementalism for a couple of generations. It’s time to learn to beat them at their own game. And don’t listen to the Rand followers. They want open borders, and they’re trying to get what they want by inciting others to stop any deal from happening. Trust President Trump’s people to get the best deal that you can get. If you want more than that later, take the House from the Democrats in 2020.
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posted on
01/10/2019 11:22:39 AM PST
by
familyop
("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
To: SeekAndFind
Why wasn’t fence stipulated in Secure Fence Act of 2006 built?
...Heres the bottom line. Back in 2006, the people of the U.S. were promised a two-layered high-tech Mexican border fence, Thanks to Kay Bailey Hutchison and Barack Obama 95% of the barrier wasnt built. The arguments against the Trump wall are totally bogus especially if you look at Israels history.
Now Donald Trump has promised America a border wall, and that same amendment that allowed the Obama administration to downgrade the required double-layered fencing enables the Trump Administration to upgrade from a fence to a 30-foot-tall wall. All he needs is funding.
Its time for America to get the border barrier we were promised. No one can honestly say it wont work. It worked in Israel, and its never been tried here. The Democrats must stop obstructing, our future depends on it.
Link: https://lidblog.com/secure-fence-act/
To: SeekAndFind
After Trump stormed out of a White House meeting with congressional leaders, GOP senators [Graham, Collins, Murkowski, Tillis, Alexander, Portman] privately gathered in Sen. Lindsey Grahams office Wednesday to discuss a way out of the logjam. The long-shot idea: propose an immigration deal that would include $5.7 billion for Trumps border wall along with several provisions that could entice Democrats. President Trump did not storm out of the meeting, but that rhetoric is expected.
Graham and Collins' fulsome support for Justice Kavanaugh was just to set the stage for this not unexpected RINO move, a softening of the ground, so to speak. I could feel it in my bones when it happened.
I'm saddled with Collins as my Senator, and she's as sleazy as the day is long. I detest her.
To: JBW1949
Give them DACA for any child brought into the country before 11:59pm, 12/31/18. In exchange we get full funding for the wall, an end to chain migration and a merit based immigration policy. And of course the government reopens.
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posted on
01/10/2019 12:26:39 PM PST
by
redangus
(actually hit her?)
To: redangus
Ps: They won’t take it, but we will have offered. Then build it with available funds under national emergency and be done with it. But we must make it an argument about national sovereignty. Make the democrats argue against the country’s right to decide who enters and stays in the country.
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posted on
01/10/2019 12:29:55 PM PST
by
redangus
(actually hit her?)
To: ClearCase_guy
If they want Dreamers getting legal status the entire $25 billion for the wall goes with it and they cannot bring in any relatives and cannot vote for a minimum of 20 years.
As for Graham bringing this up he was never the firebrand conservative he lets on to be. He was McCain’s little me-me until he assumed room temperature. He is in the pocket of the World Chamber of Commerce but has enough sense to realize Trump could cause him serious issues in a primary battle in SC next time around, thus the feint at conservatism and his behavior during Kavanaugh hearings.
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posted on
01/10/2019 1:01:27 PM PST
by
sarge83
To: SeekAndFind
Even if it gets through the Senate, the HOR won’t even entertain it.
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posted on
01/10/2019 1:04:50 PM PST
by
marajade
(Skywalker)
To: Sans-Culotte
I don't know that it would be such a bad deal. There's no way the illegals that are here are going to be deported. True, but for the past 35 years or so we are promised that amnesty is going to be paired with stopping the flow of illegals and it never is. We have to assimilate those people at a reasonable rate and we already allow a million a year in legally. Interests of ordinary Americans in stopping the flow is the main reason Trump was elected. Even if amnesty is preferred, stopping the flow is much more important.
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posted on
01/10/2019 1:06:39 PM PST
by
palmer
(...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
To: Terry Mross
Deferred action on their deportation is not the same as being here legally.
The Kenyanesian Usurper did not have the authority to start his illegal DACA program.
They are still illegal aliens.
Are you saying we have to let all 30 million stay?
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posted on
01/10/2019 1:33:47 PM PST
by
Lurkinanloomin
(Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
To: redangus
The original DACA had to be here before 2012, your proposal expands 700,000 to several million.
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posted on
01/10/2019 1:36:20 PM PST
by
Lurkinanloomin
(Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
To: bgill
Never (ever) trust this globalist McCain wannabe stooge,
He takes on the persona of whatever Alpha male is around for him to have a man crush on,
Dont believe a thing he spews, that demonic Obama creature is more trustworthy with his words,
He has some NWO end game that is in Lindsey Grahams best interests and not President Trumps or any loyal Americans,
To: Lurkinanloomin
I don’t know what I’m saying except what the media will show. Storm troopers busting through doors.
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