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To: pacificus

Spain, Portugal, Great Britain, France, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Poland, Russia, and many other European countries established settlements in the New World.

Many hundreds of millions of humans died and were killed as a result of these settlements.

It’s true that some native cultures were considered abominable to European Christians of the time period.

It’s not okay to justify the deaths of hundreds of millions of human beings, because some we’re very brutal.

That’s all I’m saying.


17 posted on 01/10/2019 12:13:08 AM PST by pacificus
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To: pacificus

While the number of dead was high, I don’t think there were hundreds of millions of natives in central and north America in the 1400s through the 1800s. Maybe hundreds of thousands to under 10 million.


20 posted on 01/10/2019 12:26:53 AM PST by Mogger
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To: pacificus

You’re being dramatic. Almost all the Indians died of European diseases without ever seeing a European. It wasn’t a mass murder like Hitler.


24 posted on 01/10/2019 12:39:45 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: pacificus

There was no death of “hundreds of millions” of people by either the Spanish in the New World or the other countries listed re “these settlements”.

The Mongol and Moslem invaders of Asia Minor and then all of Europe all the way to France (Tours), Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria, the Serbian region, Vienna, and Spain, killed millions but I don’t know the exact figure. I saw one Polish article about a battle they lost to the Mongols? with a loss of “60,000” knights.

Tours, Vienna, Spain, the Hungarian campaigns all featured reported losses in the ranges of tens of thousands, but this is outside of my area of study.

Remember, one of the first acts of Mohammed was to wipe out a friendly Jewish Arabian Peninsula city of some claimed 600,000 people, and then it was off to the races of genocide throughout much of Africa, Middle East and southern Europe.

The death tolls in the above were horrible until the Nazis and Communists came in with their more efficient killing machines (Russia/Soviet Union - Captive Nations losses estimated at over 30-50 Million or so. Red Chinese killings externally (India, Tibet, Vietnam, possibly Burma/Thailand), and internally, numbered upwards of 60-100 Million).

Sources for modern Sov Union/Red China, Prof. Richard Walker (SISS study “The Human Cost of Communism in China”; Prof. Robert Conquest’s “THC of Communism in Russia”, also SISS (both 1971-72, and “THC of Communism in Vietnam”, SISS, 1972, plus “The Black Book of Communism” and the more recent works of J.R. Rummel - “Death by Government”, 1997; “Statistics of Democide: Genocide and Mass Murder”, 1999, and Benjmain A. Valetin, “Final Solutions: Mass Killings and Genocide in the 20th Century”.


34 posted on 01/10/2019 1:02:08 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: pacificus

It wasn’t hundreds of millions. Hundreds of thousands would be a stretch for even their most densely populated areas.

Don’t drink the Kool-Aid.


45 posted on 01/10/2019 1:28:35 AM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: pacificus
Many hundreds of millions of humans died and were killed as a result of these settlements.

Your figure contains too many zeroes.

Most deaths were by disease and that was absolutely unavoidable. Technology made global travel and the spread of diseases worldwide possible.

The technology genie wasn't going back inside the bottle. If it wasn't Europeans introducing new diseases into the New World, it would have been someone else... probably the muslims.

As bad as you may believe Europeans to have been relative to our present time, try imaging a New World colonized by muslims.

53 posted on 01/10/2019 1:55:05 AM PST by fso301
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To: pacificus
Many hundreds of millions of humans died and were killed as a result of these settlements.

There were barely "hundreds of millions" of people in the entire world around 1520 when Cortez met Monctezuma. The highest population estimates I've seen for the Western Hemisphere of that era were around 20 to 30 million.

The world population reached one billion around 1830.

World population growth

There were a few large battles between the early Spanish explorers and established tribes in the New World, but far more died from diseases than from battle.

And land had been fought over in every part of the world throughout human history. There are no innocents in this regard. The Europeans were simply the ones who built ships and crossed oceans to carry on the ancient ways.

76 posted on 01/10/2019 6:18:47 AM PST by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: pacificus

If you want “hundreds of millions” of deaths, study the Moslem invasions of India and other nations.


77 posted on 01/10/2019 6:22:20 AM PST by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: pacificus
Many hundreds of millions of humans died and were killed as a result of these settlements.

Not credible.

88 posted on 01/10/2019 9:21:48 AM PST by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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