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1 posted on 01/09/2019 12:26:46 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Fake News.

Once again we have a Fake Headline that is totally contradicted by the truth and the facts contained under the headline.


2 posted on 01/09/2019 12:32:23 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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That article’s a mess.


3 posted on 01/09/2019 12:32:30 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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What does Trump believe is the endgame here?

To declare a national emergency and make every attempt to have the military make progress on protecting the border.

If he thinks the messaging here is a waste of time, why did he force the shutdown in the first place?

Because the previous funding bills expired on December 21st. He forced the shutdown so he could make it seem like the Democrats are the problem ... when in reality there is no political will for border security among most Republicans, either.

4 posted on 01/09/2019 12:32:41 PM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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Trump will have plenty of opportunities to give more speeches.

Pelosi and Schumer might have spent their ammo.


5 posted on 01/09/2019 12:32:58 PM PST by syriacus
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I believe the reason President Trump didn’t do this shut down when the Republicans ran things was because Paul Ryan had promised him that he would begin impeachment proceedings.


6 posted on 01/09/2019 12:33:08 PM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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"He’s been president for nearly two years, and up until last week, Republicans controlled both chambers of Congress. At any point during that two years, Republicans could have passed a bill to fund the border wall, and he could have gotten at least $5.6 billion."

Isn't there a 2/3's majority to pass in the Senate?
This is why the Dems dug in.

11 posted on 01/09/2019 12:39:18 PM PST by Wizdum (The Dems are not afraid a wall won't work, the Dems are TERRIFIED a wall WILL work.)
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Hearsay


12 posted on 01/09/2019 12:39:28 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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“It’ll have to end soon and it’ll do so without him getting $5 billion for the wall but he can protect his right flank by showing MAGA Nation that he did everything he could to prevail.”

Donald Trump is not the type to commit suicide by stupidity.


13 posted on 01/09/2019 12:40:51 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Yeah Trump,said a bunch of stuff privately to “TV Hosts” and trusted it wouldn’t get out. BS.


14 posted on 01/09/2019 12:41:03 PM PST by gibsonguy
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“What does Trump believe is the endgame here? Conway, Sanders, and Shine urged him to do the speech and visit the border because they recognized that the shutdown standoff is all about POTUS communicating his resolve to his base. It’ll have to end soon and it’ll do so without him getting $5 billion for the wall but he can protect his right flank by showing MAGA Nation that he did everything he could to prevail.”


That better not be the case. It will be the best way to ensure that he is a one-term, failed, President (even with the economy doing very well) - because enough of the base simply won’t show up, leading to a bunch of 2016 narrow victories turning into 2020 narrow losses.

“The government will need to re-open soon to stop these trends and the only way that happens without the president losing face is if he uses an executive decree to seize funds from the Pentagon to begin construction.”


I would not only MUCH prefer this solution, I believe that it is what is going to occur. Trump is not the type of person to accept failure and then try to paper it over with some BS indications of success. If he has a tool available to him, he WILL use it.

I believe that Trump will do his utmost to get the Dems to the table for serious negotiations, but he knows that they will not bite. So he is planning to use a Declaration of Emergency as the last resort, after having laid out why it was necessary and giving the Dems every possible chance to compromise. It’ll be a big victory - both for the country as illegal immigration begins to be significantly curtailed, and for Trump on a political level as the guy who gets things done (and done legally, too, unlike Obama).


15 posted on 01/09/2019 12:44:00 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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I think his number one priority was getting the funding to rebuild the military. I don’t know if he could have gotten both because he still didn’t have 60 votes in the Senate. Government doesn’t work like business, and I’m sure he’s gotten bad advice.


16 posted on 01/09/2019 12:44:42 PM PST by Rusty0604
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How can a president communicating with the america public on a national emergency be a waste of time?


17 posted on 01/09/2019 12:47:13 PM PST by plain talk
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Just cut off welfare/food stamps for illegal aliens..that pays for the wall itself, easy peasy, doesn’t cost taxpayers or Mexico one red cent


18 posted on 01/09/2019 12:47:52 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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He just tweeted that he offered to re-open the government to Pelosi if they agreed to discuss border security including a wall. She supposedly said no.

What a CF


20 posted on 01/09/2019 12:48:06 PM PST by TangledUpInBlue
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What Really Happened?

Donald Trump succinctly laid out the problem, then he called out both Chuckie and Nan to do the right thing. Then he let everyone know who is causing the problem of illegals killing innocent Americans.

I do believe that this was his shot across the bow. They have been warned.

Now, if he feels a declaration of emergency is warranted and emergency funding is gathered, Chuck and Nan are just going to have to eat it.

21 posted on 01/09/2019 12:48:37 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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In a way, yes it was a waste of time if the goal was to get the Democrats closer to compromise. If your goal is to build your case with the public for going around Congress and declaring a national emergency, then it served its purpose. The art of the deal. I wish POTUS had gone the national emergency route last night but I’ll leave the timing to him.


23 posted on 01/09/2019 12:59:53 PM PST by mbrfl
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We got some sweet-ass Pelosi/Schumer memes out of it.

I'm glad he made the speech. He may not get out of it what he might have liked; but, having Chuck and Nancy provide so much negative press the next day makes it worth doing.

What is a word opposite of "charisma", 'cause that was Chuck and Nancy.

24 posted on 01/09/2019 1:00:50 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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Divide and conquer “news” story. There’s one point: If Trump caves on the wall he’s done. His agenda is gone. His re-election is gone. His political clout is gone. He’s a lame duck. He has to build it however he can.


27 posted on 01/09/2019 1:08:21 PM PST by DouglasKC
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Hot Air is a good name for this website.


35 posted on 01/09/2019 1:59:09 PM PST by Crucial
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These guys just write whatever crap that pops in their fetid minds...


36 posted on 01/09/2019 2:04:26 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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