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Russia to Deploy Precision Strike Missiles in Western Atlantic
The Washington Free Beacon ^ | January 4, 2019 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 01/04/2019 8:45:50 AM PST by familyop

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1 posted on 01/04/2019 8:45:50 AM PST by familyop
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To: familyop

The Russian navy is a shadow of its former self. Most of their subs are rotting away at anchor. Their aircraft carrier is broken more often than not.


2 posted on 01/04/2019 8:50:05 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Twitter is Trump's laser pointer and the media are all cats.)
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To: familyop

very discouraging news, but Russia can already hit those targets so... still, very very bad they’d even want to augment their mutli -varied strike capabilities with yet another level of redundancy

(ps: its pretty clear that Russia, China, and the Muslims like Iran/Saudi/Qatar are very very dangerous to America...
no matter how or where they choose to deploy their weapons


3 posted on 01/04/2019 8:54:11 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians arent born, they’re excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: familyop
My number one rule during my 20+ years of research and development in the Air Force was, "Remember, the Russians aren't stupid." I sometimes was surprised by what they came up with, but I never underestimated them. Their engineers are among the best in the world. It would behoove our leaders to keep my rule in mind.
4 posted on 01/04/2019 9:01:56 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (Colonel (Retired) USAF)
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To: familyop

Fire a missile at us and see what happens.

I’m so sick of this appeasement crap.


5 posted on 01/04/2019 9:03:25 AM PST by onedoug
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To: familyop

The Russians can deploy these missiles - we can’t stop them. Of course, they already have not just the East Coast, but the entire country, targeted with nukes, so I don’t see what this does to present much of an additional threat.

However, if they want to play these kind of games with a nation that has an economy some 15 times larger than their own, let them...we’ll break their backs AGAIN, just like Reagan did in the ‘80s. Putin should be smarter than this, and be putting whatever little spare cash that Russia has into developing his nation’s economy.


6 posted on 01/04/2019 9:11:28 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: JoeFromSidney

We should have had SDI in place decades ago.


7 posted on 01/04/2019 9:14:31 AM PST by Rennes Templar (Trump: America First. Obama: Quran First. Clintons: Money First)
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To: familyop
Kalibr land attack cruise missiles

I wouldn't be too concerned about a missile from Ikea.

8 posted on 01/04/2019 9:32:56 AM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: JoeFromSidney
"My number one rule during my 20+ years of research and development in the Air Force was, 'Remember, the Russians aren't stupid.' I sometimes was surprised by what they came up with, but I never underestimated them. Their engineers are among the best in the world. It would behoove our leaders to keep my rule in mind."

Thank you, Sir. Timeless good advice. Have you seen this?

Russia Announces Military Base in Venezuela
https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2018/12/18/russia-announces-military-base-in-venezuela/

Russia announces plans to set up its first ever military base in the Caribbean - the country’s largest presence in the region since the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6504447/Russia-announces-plans-set-military-base-Caribbean.html

Report:
Russia announces plans to set up military base in Caribbean
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/256364

VLAD’S NUKE ISLAND Russia is setting up a military base on Caribbean island to host NUCLEAR BOMBERS
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3715520/posts

Oh, great. Russia takes over Venezuela’s oil industry
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3715497/posts

Venezuela's Chavez Welcomes Russian Warships
Published November 25, 2008, Last Update January 13, 2015
https://www.foxnews.com/story/venezuelas-chavez-welcomes-russian-warships

https://venezuela.liveuamap.com/en/2018/10-december-norwegian-f18-fighter-jets-shadowed-russian-tu160
“Norwegian F-18 fighter jets shadowed Russian Tu-160 strategic bombers at several stages of flight from Russia to Venezuela - @mod_russia”

Venezuela Buying Su-30s, Helicopters, etc. From Russia
Mar 31, 2016 00
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/venezuela-buying-su30s-helicopters-et-al-from-russia-02472/

Venezuelan plant to start producing Russian rifles next year
2018-08-22
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-08/22/c_137408276.htm

China-Russia is Venezuela’s closest ally.

Why some Venezuelans fear Maduro is selling them out to China
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/venezuela-china-beijing-maduro-economy-support-1.4824112

China is Venezuela’s main creditor, so China produces oil there.

Venezuela hands China more oil presence, but no mention of new funds
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-venezuela-idUSKCN1LU1EV

China vows to help crisis-hit Venezuela
https://www.dw.com/en/china-vows-to-help-crisis-hit-venezuela/a-45492164

China OPPOSES US sanctions on Venezuela [along with Russia.]
https://theduran.com/china-opposes-us-sanctions-venezuela/

Venezuela to significantly increase oil exports to China [Heh...really China increasing oil exports to China from Venezuela, pretty much like Russia’s plan.]
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/09/venezuela-significantly-increase-oil-exports-china-180919070322004.html

State Media: ‘The Presence of China in Venezuela Is Getting Stronger Every Day
https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2018/09/17/state-media-presence-china-venezuela-getting-stronger-every-day/

Venezuela Agreed To Let Russia Set Up A Bomber Outpost On This Caribbean Island: Reports
The Drive
BY JOSEPH TREVITHICK
DECEMBER 18, 2018
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/25570/venezuela-agreed-to-let-russia-set-up-a-bomber-outpost-on-this-carribean-island-reports
“Russian media outlets are reporting that the Kremlin is planning to establish a forward outpost on the Venezuelan island of La Orchila in the Caribbean Sea and base nuclear-capable Tu-160 Blackjack bombers, two of which just wrapped up a recent deployment to the country, at the site. If true, this could help bolster the embattled regime of Venezuela’s dictatorial president Nicolás Maduro and would significantly change the strategic reality in the Western Hemisphere for the United States.”

Russia, China, Radical Islam and the Latin American Threat to US Survival
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2677073/posts

China Panics over Bolsonaro: ‘Unthinkable’ for Brazil to Align with U.S. and Taiwan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3701040/posts

Emerging Threats-China rising as South America's trade savior & strategic partner
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2328266/posts

Allen West- Venezuelan Missiles Could Threaten South Florida
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2830150/posts

Venezuela Set to Develop Nuclear Power With Russia
AP
Published September 29, 2008, Last Update January 13, 2015
https://www.foxnews.com/story/venezuela-set-to-develop-nuclear-power-with-russia
"CARACAS, Venezuela – President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that Russia will help Venezuela develop nuclear energy — a move likely to raise U.S. concerns over increasingly close cooperation between Caracas and Moscow."

Venezuela Nuclear Weapons
GlobalSecurity.org
[Excerpt:]
"The US Justice Department announced September 17, 2010 that a scientist and his wife, who both previously worked as contractors at the Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) in New Mexico, have been indicted on charges of communicating classified nuclear weapons data to a person they believed to be a Venezuelan government official and conspiring to participate in the development of an atomic weapon for Venezuela, among other violations."


9 posted on 01/04/2019 9:49:51 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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The communist plan is working. Flood the US with liberal non- whites and watch the US die. Those with in the Gop and dems that are sympathetic to the communist will continue to work against the US.


10 posted on 01/04/2019 9:54:00 AM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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Time to put a sub in the vicinity of those warships that will be carrying those missiles.

If one missile launches the ship and crew will be at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.


11 posted on 01/04/2019 11:12:59 AM PST by puppypusher ( The world is going to the dogs.)
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I miss the good old days when we tracked their subs by the radiation trail they left behind. One thing that does not change is their lousy maintenance.


12 posted on 01/04/2019 12:36:58 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: familyop

It has been my take over time, that sometimes simplicity outperforms the latest tech.

IMO, you NEVER take your enemy for granted. You need to think outside the box every bit as much as they do, even more-so.

We have relied on our carriers quite heavily. I am assured they are safe, but I am not convinced of it.

You thin out our carriers, and all of a sudden you’ve got a new ball game.

Would we have enough surface ships to retaliate in theater globally? I think we’ve let our guard down considerably since Reagan.

Look, I’m not an expert, but I’m just not liking what I’ve been seeing. Here’s on article on the topic. I’m not claiming it is the be-all end all on the topic, but it does provide some base-lines for discussion.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/us-navy-struggling-grow-26071

Someone may be stupid enough to do something like this, but they’d pay a very heavy price for it. This might spur them to make other stupid moves.

Escalation could result, and it get very very messy.

Some of the greenies would be jumping for joy.


13 posted on 01/04/2019 1:23:05 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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DoughtyOne: "We have relied on our carriers quite heavily.
I am assured they are safe, but I am not convinced of it."

Nothing in wartime is ever "safe", no ship is "unsinkable".
Remember, our Pacific carriers only survived the Pearl Harbor attack by luck -- being out of port at the time.
But US aircraft carriers are built tough, possibly the toughest ships afloat, and surrounded by a perimeter of escorts and pickets, they can take & survive a lot of punishment.

How long could they survive an all-out world war?
Nobody knows, possibly the next "big one" will obsolete carriers the way the last one did battle ships, or maybe not.
But carriers' first & foremost role is to keep the peace and if they continue doing that job well, we may never have to learn the results of another "big one".

14 posted on 01/04/2019 2:18:17 PM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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I agree with your line of thought there.

We are at around 270 ships in our NAVY. At a time when other nations are building up, we seem satisfied with the status quo.

We’ve gone from close to 600 ships to now around 270, as I mentioned. That is not good.

While some of our ships are more capable than our former ships, you still have to have enough to deploy to different regions.

If we have ten U. S. Aircraft carrier battle groups, and those have deploy around them five to seven other ships, we’re talking in the neighborhood of 200 ships other than our carrier groups.

Some of those other ships aren’t offensive in nature.

Pretty quickly you get to slim pickings if you’re not careful.


15 posted on 01/04/2019 2:40:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: DoughtyOne

Sad to say but I am beginning to think only a terrible World War will unite the American People and make the youth learn their is more to the world than free stuff and video games. WW III would solve many problems—like over population, Overweight people, welfare, immigration.etc... A bitter medicine for our problems.


16 posted on 01/04/2019 3:31:54 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I don’t see mankind surviving another WW.

I come from a religious background, and it seems to me we’ve pretty much proven man’s inability to govern himself.

Even in our nation with the beautiful founding documents we have/had, look at this mess.

IMO < the best defense we have these days is being right with the Lord.

We can see the beginning of the end in our own nation too, what with Islam gaining ground, Sharia law being entertained in Western nations, and our Freedoms once taken for granted, being whittled away one by one.

Take it for what it’s worth, but I’ve seen too much of the end day predictions in the Bible come true, to totally dismiss Christ and his sacrifice for us.

Take care.


17 posted on 01/04/2019 3:40:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/Slim-pickens_riding-the-bomb_enh-lores.jpg

 "Slim Pickens" for the win!

18 posted on 01/04/2019 4:12:31 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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Yeah, but they probably have the Breshnev jokey headed in our direction. Smile...


19 posted on 01/04/2019 4:16:43 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: onedoug
Fire a missile at us and see what happens.

Total annihilation of both of our societies, obviously.
20 posted on 01/04/2019 8:06:23 PM PST by aNYCguy
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