Posted on 01/03/2019 5:54:02 PM PST by CedarDave
The stuff hilighted in the excerpt from the 12th Amendment in previous post makes it clear that the states didn’t give themselves the constitutional power to give all of a state’s electoral votes to whoever wins the plurality of electoral votes for that state.
"Article I, Section 10, Clause 3: No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State [emphases added], or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."
If they can get it to go viral they will completely eliminate any rural conservative opposition forever. The rural counties will no longer have the power of the vote at all. The rural counties just do not have the numbers to outnumber the liberal city county populations.
This is already a grave disadvantage on the local county levels as it is. No matter what is put on ballots at the county level, the blue cities always out vote the red rural folks because the numbers are not there to override the city numbers. Rural votes on the county level do not count and are useless because of the popular voting method.
If they successfully get the popular vote nation wide, all opposition will become totally null and void in the same way. The only thing that saved our rears this last election was the electoral college. Without it we will be done for and they can write their own ticket.
Sorry buddy. Fidiots in NV may pull some crazy crap this session too.
It is beautiful but dead politically.
I’m really getting sick of the people that run this state.
Remember the old days when even the crooked democrats were fairly conservative ?
Now they hate conservatives and Libertarians so much that they will throw out the will of their own constituents to insure the election of Hillary or Fauxahontas, or Bernie or some other north-eastern leftist elitist
If enough states were to go with the popular vote, democrats might rue the day they went that way.
With voting changing completely, there is no doubt that, the voting process would change for ALL states, and campaigning would be changed, and only (or mostly) the large states would come into the decision-making for the presidency.
Campaigning would be nationwide, except for the states that no longer matter. If the popular vote were to be the method for electing a president, then, people would be clamoring for the whole country to be counted as ONE and no longer as state majorities deciding for who their votes would be tallied. So, it would be total vote count nationwide, with the winner being he/she that attains 50% or greater. Democrats would never be happy with that. And, the number of congressional and senate seats would no longer matter, since, the electoral college would be abolished.
Americans need to learn how to cast “provisional” ballots. It’s the only way we are ever going to win elections again. Vote early and vote often. The ‘RATS do it and they say there is no voter fraud going on. If WE do it, we can hold them to that.
NM is now so “Democratic” that they may outlaw the GOP there. Certainly they would like to do so.
Pubs lost NM's 2nd district largely due to ballot harvesting (Dems got everyone they could find to either vote absentee by passing out applications or with provisional ballots) that elected a "progressive" social justice lady. It didn't help matters that the Pub that won the primary didn't have the support of some other Pubs who urged voters to vote Dem. Of course, none of this would have happened if conservative Steve Pearce hadn't run for Governor only to lose to the growing progressive wave in ABQ and Santa Fe; he was popular in District 2 even among Dems and independents.
California is lost for the foreseeable future if not forever with the Dem legislature requiring everyone to receive an absentee ballot, same day registration (no citizenship ID required), and ballot harvesting (going around and passing out ballots to everyone).
If enough Americans are educated on the issue without being subjected to any tangential effort to change the Constitution or to other partisan political effort, then the problem will be remedied.
Lets examine the above statement.
Simple answer: SIZE DOES MATTER!
Did you know, that if you were to divide the state of Alaska into 2 (two) part's, Texas would then become the 3rd (third) largest state in the union.
Now if you really want to make someone from TEXAS upset, mention the fact that if you were to wait for the tide to go out, and then divide Alaska into three states, Texas would then be the 4th (fourth) largest state in the union.
And their you go,
SIZE DOES MATTER!
They must be tired of seeing candidates in NM. Get rid of the electoral college and they will never see another presidential candidate step foot in NM.
Currently, the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact has 172 votes. If they reach 270 —then republicans will be locked out of power forever and the USA will die.
The terrible tragedy is that they are getting the popular votes via illegals. Most conservatives who pay attention have seen the stats in California that show gross discrepancies between the numbers of citizens and the numbers of illegals in places like Los Angeles County. Nor is this a fringe issue. The national review writes about the discrepancies.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/08/election-fraud-registered-voters-outnumber-eligible-voters-462-counties/
Investors business daily has written that the US has 3.5 million more voters than citizens.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/u-s-has-3-5-million-more-registered-voters-than-live-adults-a-red-flag-for-electoral-fraud/
That represents a number that is slightly more than the popular majority that Hillary won.
The threat of illegals to the future of the USA is existential. Once empowered the democrats will be able to remain in power because they will have an unlimited supply of illegals to keep them there. Especially with promises of government support the instant they cross over the border. already almost 70 percent of illegals are getting some form of government support.
What’s even more maddening is that Mexican Americans think this system benefits them. The benefits are transient. Mexico is getting richer. Until president Trump the growth rates for Mexico were greater than the USA. Future waves of illegals will not be from Mexico. Nor will it matter to democrats that future waves of illegals are not from Mexico. What matters is the illegals voting democrat.
You state absolute fact. If the Electoral College is eliminated all the next Communist Presidents will be elected by non-citizens loyal to other countries. The UN will be giggling themselves to no end over this prospect. It will indeed be the end of our nation sovereignty as we know it.
This concept is VERY dangerous and needs to be exposed right away.
NM is now so “Democratic” that they may outlaw the GOP there. Certainly they would like to do so.
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Dems want to outlaw the GOP everywhere. And if we don’t get a handle on and stop voter fraud, they’ll succeed.
"Article I, Section 10, Clause 3: No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State [emphases added], or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."
yeah we may get some movement on this.
Twelve states have supposedly signed on. After the disaster of the 17th Amendment, why not more democracy? /s
https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/
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