Posted on 01/01/2019 2:08:00 PM PST by Kaslin
"Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?" asked Professor Henry Higgins in the musical "My Fair Lady." It's a good question for Americans, especially millennials.
On a recent flight two young women sat behind me, chattering away rather loudly. In just one minute I counted 16 "likes" and "you knows" from just one of them.
It went this way: "And then she was like and then he was like and I was like, you know."
As an adverb, "like" means nearly, closely or approximately, as in "the experience was like jumping off a high diving board." There are other uses of the word "like," but this is perhaps the most familiar.
As for "you know," if the person already knows what you are telling them, why tell them?
These are verbal crutches, used to replace common English usage. They are the language of the ignorant, of a generation that can neither speak well, nor think rationally. Call them Bernie Sanders voters.
The late NBC News Correspondent Edwin Newman wrote two books about the misuse of English. Some of his (and my) least favorite words are heard inside airports. Newman got irritated when airline employees spoke of a "podium," and not a desk. He was also flummoxed when they invited certain passengers to "pre-board" the airplane, which he noted was impossible. One can board early, or board ahead of others passengers, but to "pre-board" is a contradiction.
When I was in school English grammar was a requirement, not an option. We diagrammed sentences and learned the proper use and positioning of words. We were taught never to end a sentence in a preposition and learned when to say "me" and "I," and the difference between there, their and they're.
Cliches were once mostly used by young people and inexperienced writers. Today, they have crept into the language of people who should know better. These cliches include "needless to say" (then why bother to say it?), and "cautiously optimistic." The Washington Post once compiled a list of "200 journalism cliches ... and counting" of which the cliches above are only two.
Politicians love cliches and other words and phrases that often serve as smokescreens to fool the public. "The American people" is a favorite, as if all Americans think alike. "We can't keep spending as if there is no tomorrow" is another. So if we stop spending, will tomorrow come, or is this like Groundhog Day when there will be six more weeks of winter whether or not the rodent sees his shadow?
Don't get me started on TV hosts and reporters. "As you can see," they often say. Yes, we can. That's because it's called television. It's not radio, OK? It has pictures. "Shot in the encounter" was a favorite of a former news director at a TV station where I worked. We wondered where one could find the encounter on one's anatomy? "Rushed to the hospital" was another of his favorites. Why not "taken" or "driven"? After being rushed to the hospital, one was then "hospitalized," which always sounded to me as a process resembling the application of wax to a car (Simonize for those who don't get it).
The point is to learn English as a means of expressing ourselves that shows we didn't just fall off a turnip truck (deliberate use of a cliche). What's the point of speaking English if it can't be properly spoken and understood?
Over Christmas I listened to the Welsh poet Dylan Thomas reading his brilliant "A Child's Christmas in Wales." The delight of words, well-chosen and beautifully spoken, was thrilling and captivating. He makes the listener want to listen, as opposed to wishing to plug one's ears when assaulted with "like" and "you know."
"One common language I'm afraid they'll never get," lamented Henry Higgins. Could one of our Resolutions for 2019 be to speak better English?
Me us used with him as appropriate. As in ‘me and him went to the movies.
More polite would be ‘him and me’.
This.
I seem to run into people lately who, for the most part, do not use nouns and do not use verbs. And they are frustrated and angry if you don't understand them. "Because reasons."
We becoming a society which is both illiterate and also inarticulate. Very frightening.
” In just one minute I counted 16 “likes” and “you knows” from just one of them.”
Yup. I hear it all the time. ‘It’s like...you know” There was even one time at Coffee Bean at line, I heard one woman said “it’s like” close to 30 times in 60 seconds.
“Do you know what I mean?”... My sister in NY ends every sentence with it... Drives me NUTS.
Try he and I...
I especially dislike the “use 4 times less” or a variation thereof.
Subject-verb-object. He and I went to the movies. My friend took me and him to the movies.
“Like” and “you know” are particles. They don’t have semantic content, but they serve a rhetorical function.
Classical Greek was full of them.
and “he and I” is the correct use ...
But I think the greater problem is the sheer inability of people to communicate at all. If I say, "Him and me ain't got no money", you do understand that I am reporting that I and this other fellow are utterly penniless. The message does come through.
But the greatest problem we face today, I think, is that people are apt to report, "It's like, you know? and me, well whatever, and so you know?" Which is rather less meaningful than "Him and me ain't got no money"
Sorry for my poor English, it’s my native tongue.
Had a high school biology teacher in the mid-60s who could not speak without using ‘you know’, ‘we know’, ‘they know’, etc. We counted and in a one-hour class he used one of those variants over 130 times. Some times it was almost: “We know that you know that they know...”.
I always enjoyed doing job interviews where the applicant used the ‘valley girl’ or ‘da hood’ English. Never told them that their communication skills were the reason they didn’t get the job. I figured that they would eventually find something in the exciting world of pizza delivery.
Sorry but the correct grammar would be: He and I went to the movies.
Me us used with him as appropriate. As in ‘me and him went to the movies.
More polite would be ‘him and me’
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I believe “ he and I” went to the movies.” is correct.
who is he, and does he talk kind if feminine? (If you know what I mean?
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