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Firing of Several Black Coaches Puts N.F.L. Hiring Under Scrutiny (NYT alert)
New York Times ^ | December 31, 2018 | Bill Pennington and Ken Belson

Posted on 12/31/2018 8:55:08 PM PST by reaganaut1

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Four black coaches were fired Sunday or Monday, including the Jets’ Todd Bowles, who was let go shortly after his team’s final loss Sunday. The Jets had a 14-34 record in the last three seasons under Bowles.

Marvin Lewis, who had been at the helm of the Cincinnati Bengals since 2003, was fired Monday. Though he had resurrected the moribund Bengals and took them to the playoffs multiple times, he never won a playoff game and this season was Cincinnati’s third consecutive one with a losing record.

Also fired Monday was Denver Broncos Coach Vance Joseph, who had presided over the first back-to-back losing seasons for the Broncos since the early 1970s. In Arizona, Steve Wilks had been the Cardinals’ coach for just one season when he was fired Monday after his team compiled a league-worst record of 3-13.

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A $21,000 Cosmetology School Debt, and a $9-an-Hour Job In October, another African-American coach, Hue Jackson, was fired after his teams were 3-36-1 in roughly two and a half seasons.

The two black head coaches still in the N.F.L. are Anthony Lynn of the Los Angeles Chargers (12-4), who are headed to a wild-card playoff game Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens, and Mike Tomlin of the Pittsburgh Steelers (9-6-1).

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To: kearnyirish2

That, and Hispanics are about 10% as likely to play the race card at work. But, they are getting better at it.


101 posted on 01/01/2019 7:10:11 AM PST by anton
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To: reaganaut1
I feel sorry for coaches, they're at the mercy of the pocketbooks of the owners who buy the players......

I look at the Lion's Matthew Stafford who has a $135 million contract but the only person on the team scoring points is the field goal kicker.........LOL!

102 posted on 01/01/2019 7:15:12 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: willk

Part of conservative philosophy, is that the truth is never racist. It is simply the truth. The IQ gap is well documented.


103 posted on 01/01/2019 7:21:39 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: reaganaut1

Jimmy The Greek....is that you?


104 posted on 01/01/2019 7:23:29 AM PST by 4yearlurker ("There stands mother under the oleanders,open the windows." A dying cowboys last words,1879.)
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To: reaganaut1
NYT: blacks are entitled to coach NFL teams regardless of their success rate. Lunatics.
105 posted on 01/01/2019 7:25:44 AM PST by Vision (Obama corrupted, sought to weaken and fundamentally change America; he didn't plan on being stopped)
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To: Gene Eric

Affirmative action is racial discrimination. Social warriors bastardize the English language to achieve their nutty ideas.


106 posted on 01/01/2019 7:41:59 AM PST by monocle
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To: reaganaut1

Simple mathematics— more black coaches had jobs and so more black coaches could be fired. 2 black coaches retained their jobs. Enough with the race card theme and quotas. Winning coaches keep their jobs.


107 posted on 01/01/2019 7:50:03 AM PST by tflabo
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To: willk

But it’s also true.

Jordan Peterson has made points showing how Jews and Asians have higher average IQs than whites, but then tap dances away from the issue with blacks, because the PC crowd would rip him to pieces.


108 posted on 01/01/2019 7:54:04 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: willk
“Coaching takes more brains, and there is a difference in average IQ for whites and blacks. “

Wow dude! I may be bigoted at times but what you said is pure racism.


You do realize that black and white aren't races, yes? If it wasn't based on fact, that would be colorist.
109 posted on 01/01/2019 7:54:52 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: reaganaut1

When the liberals quota system fails panic ensues.


110 posted on 01/01/2019 8:05:36 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Boomer One

I’m a Jets fan and really liked Todd Bowles and wanted him to succeed. Sad to see him go but it was time for a change.


111 posted on 01/01/2019 8:16:21 AM PST by tflabo
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To: reaganaut1

Firing of Several Black Coaches Puts N.F.L. Hiring Under Scrutiny (NYT alert)

In order to fire them,
they had to hire them in the first place.


112 posted on 01/01/2019 9:09:56 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: willk

I was going to reply but several others already have. Is it pure racism that the almost all defensive backs are black and because they are on average faster than their white counterparts? No it isn’t. Color isn’t a race but regardless national origin does correlate to physical and intelligence advantages. Facts aren’t racist. They are facts and averages will show it.

Let me add some sexism in the mix. The curve for intelligence is wider for men than women. So you have more men with very high IQs but also more idiot men than women. Is it sexist against women that there is more male geniuses? Or is it sexist against men that there are more idiot men than women?

Please respond if you have the time. You made accusations of racism and walked away.


113 posted on 01/01/2019 9:18:01 AM PST by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens!)
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To: anton

“Its only insulting when one notices the marked differences.”

Clarify.


114 posted on 01/01/2019 9:19:15 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: TomGuy

The Bucs fired Dungy after a winning season; however, he didn’t win enough playoff games. Gruden won a Superbowl with essentially Dungy’s players.


115 posted on 01/01/2019 9:23:37 AM PST by grwcfl537
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To: cymbeline
All objective methods of comparing populations of different races and ethnic groups will show marked differences in various characteristics.

We are forbidden to notice those differences according to the current politically correct narratives.

Well, except for "Affirmative Action", and "Minority Set-Aside", and "Disparate Impact" policies, which benefit certain political factions.

"Sportsball" is a very unforgiving objective test. You have winning teams or you are gone. Blacks dominate such athletic events because of superior skills, not "racism". Those skills are mostly genetic in origin, augmented by good training and good coaching.

Software Engineering is another unforgiving objective test. The machine does not know or care about your racial and ethnic background. The application must work correctly and usually by an unreasonable deadline. Whites (and in particular Asians) dominate such trades because of superior intelligence (and several other X-factors as well). Those skills are mostly genetic in origin, augmented by good training and good management.

We rather badly need a social narrative that deals with reality instead of trying to ignore it.

116 posted on 01/01/2019 10:00:18 AM PST by flamberge (It seemed like a good idea at the time)
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To: reaganaut1

Maybe these black coaches are being fired because they’re hiring WAAAAAAAY more black starters than the percentage of blacks in the general population.... (in short - racism)
/s


117 posted on 01/01/2019 10:02:08 AM PST by GOPJ (DC Swamp critters can't sell influence or American blood in the Middle East. Thanks President Trump)
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To: flamberge

“We rather badly need a social narrative”

My opinion is that we have too many of these narratives — of comparing one group with another. How unfair is it to demean a brilliant, say, black person by pointing out that he’s a member of a race that by some statistics is deemed less intelligent.

I’m a white person.


118 posted on 01/01/2019 12:41:43 PM PST by cymbeline
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To: anton

Yes, they’re learning about the race card - but they don’t want to end up on the “do not hire” list...


119 posted on 01/01/2019 12:58:50 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: reaganaut1

Had no doubt the NY Slimes and the the Washington Compost would fly this flag!


120 posted on 01/01/2019 1:14:37 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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