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1 posted on 12/22/2018 8:27:09 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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Who cares?


2 posted on 12/22/2018 8:31:13 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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I don’t understand how PDJT has missed the opportunity to call out Pelosi and Schumuk and Obama’s walls and fences at their palaces. Also their security...hypocrites.


6 posted on 12/22/2018 8:39:24 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Either the Wall gets built or America becomes a democrat socialist state.)
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Meh...

We don’t care, Mitch. Seeing how you don’t know how to bust balls and keep your caucus in line, there really isn’t much point.


8 posted on 12/22/2018 8:41:22 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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The people most affected by a prolonged shutdown will be congressional democrats, RINOs, and and their staffers.

Eventually they'll have to explain to their constituents why they're against border security.

Their bullsh!t argument that a wall doesn't work and is a waste of money won't cut it.

I want the FED GOV shut down at least until February.

p.s. I am a Federal employee affected by the shutdown and need some time off from the insanity that is the FED GOV.

9 posted on 12/22/2018 8:41:25 PM PST by rllngrk33 (Time for all patriotic Americans to boycott liberals and all SJW/PC bullsh*t.)
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Is she drawing any yet?


10 posted on 12/22/2018 8:43:02 PM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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Why the pro forma session on Dec. 24?
Is this to prevent recess appointments by President Trump?
If so, what side is Mitch fighting on?????


11 posted on 12/22/2018 8:43:25 PM PST by beekay
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Everyone should send Mitch an UGLY tie. The worst one they ever saw, as a token of their disgust and disapproval of his cowardly ways. And maybe send him some Neuticles, too. Or any sort of ball they have laying around the house.


18 posted on 12/22/2018 8:54:20 PM PST by EinNYC
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They’ll end up doing a DACA for part of the wall deal. But that’s OK as any money for the wall will be a win for Trump and he’s already made it clear he will sign a DACA deal.


19 posted on 12/22/2018 8:54:40 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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If Congress could be made to realize that this is 2019 and they could stay in their home districts and vote and have committee hearings online instead of journeying in and out of Washington D.C. like it’s 1789 or something, the taxpayers could save billions of dollars.

But the LAST thing they want is staying in their home districts, amongst their constituents.

The D.C. bartenders and prostitutes hate that idea, too.


22 posted on 12/22/2018 9:05:50 PM PST by JennysCool
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Don’t bother, nobody out here gives a sh!t if the government stays shut down for the next 10 years.


23 posted on 12/22/2018 9:22:22 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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So is Congress in recess?


28 posted on 12/22/2018 9:52:09 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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Build the wall to stop Robert’s Refugees!!


30 posted on 12/22/2018 10:06:20 PM PST by inchworm
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The feckless, gutless, spineless turtle needs to resign. His strategy is caving to the RATS instead of forcing them to face and vote on their positions which would show their perfidy. He is a clown, the queen relic of “stupid party” idiocy.


32 posted on 12/22/2018 11:01:05 PM PST by Fungi
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My own (and possibly imperfect) reading is that the Senate is slowly being herded into a box canyon consisting of the current House CR which contains $5B for wall construction.

McConnell is giving the current Senate only two options:

Option 1, continue to shirk their duties and deny a vote until the end of the session.

Option 2, vote and pass the House CR containing $5B for wall construction.

IMHO McConnell and Trump are gambling that the Senate will not like having Option 1 appearing on their permanent record. They cannot predict the future, which may judge them harshly in retrospect for their defacto group decision to deny passage.

If Option 1 is chosen, then technically McConnell still has the choice to dismiss the Senate a day or two early, giving Trump a chance to make recess appointments. McConnell would have to draw out the Democrats to continue to commit to Option 1 as they have been doing up until now. That gives him the excuse to declare the Democrats unreasonable and dismiss the Senate early. Ideally they need just enough time for Trump to make such appointments. That could be a few days, a few hours, or a few minutes (I do not know which). They need to minimize public perception of being in the wrong and maximize public perception of being and/or representing the wronged party. My WAG is that a few hours would be enough, and that a day or more would be used by the Democrats and MSM to castigate Trump and the Republicans for concocting a premeditated plot to perform such appointments. Waiting has the side advantage that some frail members of the judiciary might slide into becoming incapacitated, giving Trump the opportunity to make more appointments than would normally be the case.

The end game could be to increase political clearance for recess appointments, or it could be for speculative reasons such as increasing 2020 political capital among Trump True Believers denying a solution to the shutdown until the next Congress. Or both.

Once the next Congress convenes it would be up to Pelosi to come up with a CR or budget to avoid shutdown. It would then become a war of words and a test of will between Pelosi and Trump. We probably already can guess which way the MSM would spin it, but which personality would win in the court of public opinion? I think it would be Trump since Trump has the advantage of having been on his reality TV series and being successful at decision making while Pelosi is publicly regarded as only a politician and so she is relatively vulnerable in that regard. If this is true, then a compromise CR (and attendant wall funding) could swing more in the direction of Trump’s position than in the direction of Pelosi’s position.

(What am I missing?) (Most likely, a lot)


33 posted on 12/22/2018 11:20:32 PM PST by SteveH
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Change the damn Senaterules to a simple majority, you Chinese commie trading traitor!!!!!


36 posted on 12/23/2018 3:00:47 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach John Roberts for corruption)
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If the RATS were in the same position they would use the nuke option. McConnell should go nuke. You know damn well they will do nothing after Christmas and postpone it till after New Years when the RATS take over. Had Ryan had a pair of balls the money for the wall would have been allocated a long time ago.


37 posted on 12/23/2018 6:38:07 AM PST by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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If the RATS were in the same position they would use the nuke option. McConnell should go nuke. You know damn well they will do nothing after Christmas and postpone it till after New Years when the RATS take over. Had Ryan had a pair of balls the money for the wall would have been allocated a long time ago.


38 posted on 12/23/2018 6:39:22 AM PST by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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WOW - turtle knows it is still Dec - thanks for the info on that turtle - you and all the other RINOs are such a big help! NOT!

Now disappear cause you dont support us and we dont support you, in fact we loath you!


45 posted on 12/23/2018 8:15:58 AM PST by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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Feds are closed for 8 days out of the next 14 due to Christmas and New Year. That leaves 6 working days, that Congress doesn’t work anyway.

CHRISTMAS PRESENT FOR AMERICA A BORDER WALL
https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall?fbclid=IwAR1nf79v41XGBB59HZvlLK8KGpYLIM-LH4v_o50CwHgkbLGpON6uqRoouGc


47 posted on 12/23/2018 9:19:03 AM PST by GailA (Wife of RET. SCPO, GET OVER IT, DONALD TRUMP IS PRESIDENT!)
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McConman won’t put it up for a vote. He is protecting the fake conservative Senators from having to go on record, as they will be blamed forever for preventing Trump from fulfilling one of his promises. Just like Trump kept pointing at McCain for killing the repeal of obamacare.

Mitch McConman.


48 posted on 12/23/2018 9:19:43 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Democrats: Party over Country.)
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