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Trump administration officially bans bump stocks
CNN ^ | 12/18/2018 | Laura Jarrett

Posted on 12/18/2018 8:16:12 AM PST by GIdget2004

The Trump administration is officially banning bump-fire stocks, senior Justice Department officials told CNN Tuesday.

Under a new federal rule, those who possess the devices, commonly known as bump stocks, will get 90 days to turn them in from the date that the final rule is published in the federal register, which is likely Friday, the officials said.

Bump stocks gained national attention last year after a gunman in Las Vegas rigged his weapons with the devices to fire on concertgoers, killing 58 people. President Donald Trump vowed to outlaw the devices soon after the tragedy, and some lawmakers on Capitol Hill urged him to back a permanent legislative fix.

But opposition from lawmakers and the National Rifle Association ultimately made a regulatory change the only realistic path forward to accomplishing the President's goal.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
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To: The Pack Knight

Wow, someone answered my question.


121 posted on 12/18/2018 10:39:40 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Simon Green

“They are in some states.”

The original poster’s comment was that automatic firearms are banned. I made a definitive statement that they are not. The fact that some states ban them does not invalidate my statement that they are not banned.

“In any case, laws which have resulted in the market price of an M16 being $20,000 or more are a practical ban.”

No, they aren’t. You just have to have $20,000 to buy an M16. You can buy automatic weapons for less that $20,000, and others for more than $20,000.

The above are statements of fact. Not “practical” facts, just plain old facts.


122 posted on 12/18/2018 10:40:15 AM PST by suthener
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To: Ron H.

No, I do not miss the point. I understand it completely.

I had never heard of or seen a bump stock before the Las Vegas shooting and have shot and hunted all my life. If they were so good to have I’m sure I would have heard about them.


123 posted on 12/18/2018 10:42:23 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Ron H.

Should someone be jailed for using marijuana?


124 posted on 12/18/2018 10:43:43 AM PST by GuavaCheesePuff (I want to thank the Good Lord for making me a Yankee-Old Yankee Stadium (1923-2008))
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To: Armscor38

Ban is one thing....enforcement entirely another.


125 posted on 12/18/2018 10:44:31 AM PST by windowdude
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To: joegoeny

The least violation? How about no violations at all and just stick to our Constitution, the bill of rights, and the rule of law how about that?


126 posted on 12/18/2018 10:46:14 AM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Where have all the Conservatives Gone?)
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To: Ron H.
>>I for one am having to reevaluate just how much I can continue to support this President with his growing penchant for supporting liberal positions and causes.

What do you mean “growing”? Did you not hear of Donald Trump before 2015 or 2016? He is in December of 2018, the same person he’s always been. The same person who said on February 20, 2018:

"Just a few moments ago I signed a memorandum directing the AG to propose regulations to ban all devices that turn legal weapons into machine guns.

President Trump was talking about this ban 10 months ago. Spare us the fake outrage. He is who he has always been. Either you didn’t care back in February because you thought he was lying, or you thought he was incapable of pulling this off, but a lot of us took notice when he was talking about this, and then a few weeks later when he said:

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,”
127 posted on 12/18/2018 10:49:13 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Ron H.

Bump stocks are not the hill to die on. The banning of full auto was such a hill.
A device that allows you to spew bullets indescriminately does not make you a patriot. The ability to accurately hit your target at distance does. I will vote for Trump next election with a clear heart because he is so much better than anyone else running.


128 posted on 12/18/2018 10:50:42 AM PST by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: laplata

I’m not the respondee, but I am a Candy Mushroom.

Candy mushrooms are usually pink in colour. They always find the light in a situation. They don’t really have any special powers they are just extremely happy.

https://www.gotoquiz.com/what_kind_of_mushroom_are_you


129 posted on 12/18/2018 10:55:16 AM PST by treetopsandroofs
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To: laplata
If they were so good to have I’m sure I would have heard about them.

Spend a little time on YouTube exploring new and amazing things you can buy right now, or any of the new and amazing tools or construction videos.

You will be amazed at what you don't know.

130 posted on 12/18/2018 10:56:51 AM PST by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Celerity
>> the government has no right to any object in your possession. Period.

I wish more people felt this way. My family has land in South Texas, and out near El Paso, and I honestly don’t know who ignores our property rights more - Border Patrol or the illegals. I’m kidding, I know the answer, and it’s the guys with badges....
131 posted on 12/18/2018 10:58:11 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: treetopsandroofs

I don’t see your point.


132 posted on 12/18/2018 10:58:25 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: itsahoot

I do spend time on YouTube and learn something every day.


133 posted on 12/18/2018 10:59:18 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

Just having some fun.

I also was curious about the question, and found something lighthearted and inane. :-)


134 posted on 12/18/2018 11:00:14 AM PST by treetopsandroofs
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To: laplata
I had never heard of or seen a bump stock before the Las Vegas shooting and have shot and hunted all my life. If they were so good to have I’m sure I would have heard about them.

I know I should be at least a little surprised at how you are so willingly eager to express your obvious ignorance of firearm accessories. And you obviously spend little or no time at gun ranges or visiting local gun shows. These devices have been around for a lot longer than you are apparently aware of. Not hard to believe after looking at some of your posts here though. Sorry, only stating the obvious.

135 posted on 12/18/2018 11:00:43 AM PST by Ron H. (Gab.ai)
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To: suthener
No, they aren’t. You just have to have $20,000 to buy an M16. You can buy automatic weapons for less that $20,000, and others for more than $20,000. The above are statements of fact. Not “practical” facts, just plain old facts.

And if analogous laws were put in place which resulted in automobiles having a similar mark up in price making an entry level car cost $300,000, that wouldn’t technically be a ban, either. But it would be one in all but name.

What if legislation was enacted that resulted in all firearms having similar increases in price? Would you shrug and say “So what if a 1911 now costs $20,000? It’s not as if they’ve been banned, after all.”?

136 posted on 12/18/2018 11:01:11 AM PST by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.”)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Thank you, I appreciate that. Now I’ll take the quiz. lol


137 posted on 12/18/2018 11:01:34 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: ssfromla
Where is the NRA in all of this? Has anyone heard a peep from them?

They don't understand "shall not be infringed" either.

139 posted on 12/18/2018 11:26:24 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: cowboyusa
Abandon him then, and go join the Globalists oh pure one.

You can blather and drivel and hurl insults all you like. At the end, you're red-faced and out of breath ... and your god-hero Trump the Magnificent has still violated the Constitution.

Deal with facts.

140 posted on 12/18/2018 11:29:46 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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