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BREAKING NEWS: Texas Judge has struck down Affordable Care Act, declared unconstituional
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Posted on 12/14/2018 5:14:51 PM PST by springwater13

U.S. District Judge Reed O’Connor agreed with 19 States to declare the Affordable Care Act, (aka Obamacare) Unconstitutional because Congress revoked the tax penalty last year.

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KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; healthcare; itsdeadjim; maga; obama; obamacare; penandaphone; reedoconnor; texas
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To: Nationale7

“My family has health insurance through my union that was unaffected by the ACA so I am ignorant, as I am realizing more and more, about much of what you are speaking of.”

Here is website that provides a general idea of what the costs are for ObamaCare. It is fairly accurate.

https://www.kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

The next website will show actual plans. This link likely will disappear after today. Today is the last day for people to sign up on the exchanges.

https://www.healthcare.gov/see-plans/


201 posted on 12/15/2018 11:12:20 AM PST by EVO X
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To: lodi90

We just ne one of rhe black robed pukes to kick the bucket.


202 posted on 12/15/2018 11:28:00 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: ScottfromNJ
"The penalty “tax” is fully repealed effective January 1 2019."

Are you sure? Can you point me to a legit url that says so?
I thought Congress only reduced Robert's tax to 0%, which I and many believe the law would still be intact.

203 posted on 12/15/2018 11:30:05 AM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: springwater13

CJ Roberts catches a lot of criticism from the Freep crowd, but I can’t buy the theories that he’s a closet fluffer or that he’s being blackmailed.

His basic theory seems to be a few things: One, if it’s a state issue, he’s going to throw it back to the states. Two, if it’s a congress issue, he’s going to throw it back to Congress (hence his ruling that OCare is a tax that Congress will have to address). Three, if there’s precedent, he’s going to see if precedent takes precedence in a case. Four, if a case comes to the doorstep of SCOTUS for perusal, he determines whether it’s got legs or not.

Has he actively legislated new law or swung to the left? Not really. And his rulings tend to be narrow, not sweeping, allowing for future hearings on cases in order to create clarity.


204 posted on 12/15/2018 12:28:47 PM PST by lurk
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To: springwater13

CJ Roberts catches a lot of criticism from the Freep crowd, but I can’t buy the theories that he’s a closet fluffer or that he’s being blackmailed.

His basic theory seems to be a few things: One, if it’s a state issue, he’s going to throw it back to the states. Two, if it’s a congress issue, he’s going to throw it back to Congress (hence his ruling that OCare is a tax that Congress will have to address). Three, if there’s precedent, he’s going to see if precedent takes precedence in a case. Four, if a case comes to the doorstep of SCOTUS for perusal, he determines whether it’s got legs or not.

Has he actively legislated new law or swung to the left? Not really. And his rulings tend to be narrow, not sweeping, allowing for future hearings on cases in order to create clarity.


205 posted on 12/15/2018 12:29:08 PM PST by lurk
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To: DoodleDawg

Thank you Doodle!


206 posted on 12/15/2018 12:35:40 PM PST by Salamander (Death makes angels of us all, and give us wings where we once had shoulders, smooth as ravens' claws)
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To: Sacajaweau
The govenment has been in healthcare at least since Medicare began.

The federal government has long had their fingers in a thousand and one things that are not within their purview, but that fact doesn't justify their continuing to do so.

As a conservative, you should be just as hard on Republicans as you are on Democrats when they attempt to expand big government.

207 posted on 12/15/2018 1:05:19 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: lurk

then, CJ Roberts is collecting a very large salary under false pretext. If it’s a state issue and it violates the Constitution, it’s his job to intervene; if it’s a Congressional issue, and it violates the Constitution, it’s his duty to intervene; because that’s what the hell he’s there for.


208 posted on 12/15/2018 1:24:45 PM PST by Segovia
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To: springwater13
Mark weighs in...

Judge rules Obamacare unconstitutional, and he’s right https://t.co/cgzxUhO60Y— Mark R. Levin (@marklevinshow) December 15, 2018


209 posted on 12/15/2018 4:26:31 PM PST by conservative98
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To: springwater13
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210 posted on 12/15/2018 5:42:58 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Windflier; Sacajaweau
The government has been in healthcare at least since Medicare began.

The feds have engaged in unconstitutional acts like meddling in healthcare LONG before Medicare began.

211 posted on 12/15/2018 5:45:03 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: lurk
Agreed - lots of speculation. There's a picture of CJ Roberts that sometimes is presented as if it's proof that Roberts is gay. Pretty ignorant...
212 posted on 12/15/2018 6:19:29 PM PST by Fury
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To: Albion Wilde

Declared unconstitutional because it is.


213 posted on 12/15/2018 7:05:48 PM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: Segovia

The way it works is the Roberts court sniffs a case. If they deem a lower court decision to be unconstitutional, they write a note to the lower court telling them to correct it and send it back. If they deem it constitutional, they write a ruling saying the decision stands.


214 posted on 12/15/2018 9:51:03 PM PST by lurk
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To: mtrott

“Actually, for something to exist, its value cannot equal zero.

It is a placeholder, a symbol to be filled in but with a zero value currently. It exists, just like any mathematical variable ‘x’ with an as yet unassigned value, or a value of zero. In this case, rather than a variable in an equation it is a legal definition and it exists.

Just because I haven’t completed my taxes yet and the last box says “0” doesn’t mean my debt to the IRS ‘doesn’t exist’. And going on what the other guy said, if I finish my taxes and I owe zero my debt to the IRS still exists, but with a value of zero.


215 posted on 12/15/2018 10:27:09 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: springwater13

This was the lieral fascist Obama attempt to socialize 30% of the US economy.

It failed. Thanks be to G_d.

We still are a Free Republic, but the fight is not over. We have the deep state DOJ and FBI to destroy.


216 posted on 12/15/2018 11:25:06 PM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: House Atreides

If he DOES create yet another way to save it, he will remove all doubt that he is compromised.>>>>>>>>>

Impeach Roberts. He is a sexual predator and pedophile who has a huge carbon foot print! A monster! ( sarc.)


217 posted on 12/15/2018 11:30:42 PM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: springwater13; All

Both Roberts and Kavanaugh refused to hear a case against Planned Parenthood. Since only 3 justices voted to hear the case it will not be heard as 4 votes are needed.

If it turns out that a lot of people really want this health care, then reinstating a penalty of $1 for those who don’t sign up could solve the tax or non-tax issue.


218 posted on 12/15/2018 11:51:05 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Alberta's Child

If they put it back to $1, the legal issue is moot.


219 posted on 12/15/2018 11:52:56 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
Right. This is a pretty weak challenge for a number of reasons.

The best way to challenge the ACA is to have states adopt regulations that allow insurers to sell plans that do not comply with the ACA provisions that drive premiums through the roof -- e.g., the elimination of annual or lifetime caps, the requirement for insurers to cover a whole litany of medical treatments that a lot of people don't want anyway, etc. Those provisions of the ACA are blatant violations of the 10th Amendment and the 1945 Federal law that gives states the authority to regulate the insurance industry.

220 posted on 12/16/2018 3:40:20 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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