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No. 2 House Republican: Gov’t shutdown ‘stupid’, may happen [McCarthy]
Associated Press ^ | December 13, 2018 | Matthew Daly

Posted on 12/13/2018 6:50:33 PM PST by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai

Texas Sen. John Cornyn, the Senate’s No 2 Republican, said he does not understand Trump’s strategy. “Maybe he’s figured it out and he’ll tell us in due course, but I don’t understand it,” Cornyn told The Washington Post. …
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Cornyn doesn’t understand that we want our border secured.

He needs to be replaced with someone who will.


41 posted on 12/13/2018 8:27:44 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Olog-hai

SHUT.
IT.
DOWN.

And keep it that way.


42 posted on 12/13/2018 8:37:22 PM PST by karnage
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To: Olog-hai
Meet the young psuedo-conservative bun-punchers. A new generation of kabuki actors to protect the swamp. I guess they'll have to come out with a new book /rolleyes


43 posted on 12/13/2018 8:44:36 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Cocked, locked and ready to ROCK!)
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To: Olog-hai

The Republican Party is in ruins.


44 posted on 12/13/2018 9:11:01 PM PST by Dogbert41 (When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe. -Luke 11:21)
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To: Olog-hai

Republicans haven’t learned a damn thing from all this yet, have they.

Effing surrender artists.


45 posted on 12/13/2018 9:37:29 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Yes, it's a Cold Civil War with Socialists. They don't have the stomach for a hot one.)
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To: Olog-hai
Wonder why it didn’t show up on a title search. After all, the titles match.

Actually, the titles don't match:

No. 2 House Republican: Gov’t shutdown ‘stupid’, may happen [McCarthy]
No. 2 House Republican: Gov't shutdown would be 'stupid'

Better to pick out a significant part of the title, Gov't shutdown for example, and search on that.

46 posted on 12/13/2018 9:37:55 PM PST by upchuck (When hatred of culture becomes itself a part of culture, the life of the mind loses all meaning.)
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To: Olog-hai

That happens to me too. I search the first couple of pages before I post now.


47 posted on 12/13/2018 9:40:14 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Yes, it's a Cold Civil War with Socialists. They don't have the stomach for a hot one.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

The 3 pos.


48 posted on 12/13/2018 9:44:10 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: italianquaker

The GOP won’t admit this, but they keep the Senate vote for cloture at 60 votes on an issue like this to hide the fact that they don’t even have 50 votes votes to pass it. They wouldn’t have 50 votes even if there were 100 Republicans in the Senate.


49 posted on 12/13/2018 9:44:17 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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Very possible you are right. They know this is wrong, they must be bought. They are sinking their own party by bringing these new Democrats into the country.

Think about it. What would Democrats be doing if 720,000 illegal alien Republican voters were coming into America?


50 posted on 12/13/2018 9:50:18 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Yes, it's a Cold Civil War with Socialists. They don't have the stomach for a hot one.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

720,000 coming every year I meant above.


51 posted on 12/13/2018 9:51:11 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Yes, it's a Cold Civil War with Socialists. They don't have the stomach for a hot one.)
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They know this is wrong, they must be bought. They are sinking their own party by bringing these new Democrats into the country.

Think about it. What would Democrats be doing if 720,000 illegal alien Republican voters were coming into America?


They are sinking the Party of Lincoln. These are progressive corportist careerists who dream of a reborn Republican Party styled like the “Conservative” in name only Party of Great Britain. The sooner Patriots leave the GOP the better in their view. They fully aim to compete with Democrats for our replacements. They do not mind being in the minority party with perks while Democrats do the heavy lifting installing a European style social welfare state.


52 posted on 12/13/2018 9:55:56 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Olog-hai
"“Maybe he’s figured it out and he’ll tell us in due course, but I don’t understand it,”"

No explanation will get through to the spineless turds like this guy who have for so long given in to every democrat whim.

53 posted on 12/13/2018 10:08:47 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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Maybe he’s figured it out and he’ll tell us
in due course, but I don’t understand it,”
Cornyn told The Washington Post. …”

Trump figured it out after 65,000,000
American CITIZENS voted for him. WE
want the wall, and we don’t care if
Mexico pays for it or not.


54 posted on 12/14/2018 12:10:04 AM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Electric Graffiti

The Young Bums


55 posted on 12/14/2018 4:10:12 AM PST by cp124 (I didnÂ’t leave America, it left me.)
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To: Olog-hai

The shot heard round the world.


56 posted on 12/14/2018 5:47:14 AM PST by HighSierra5
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To: Olog-hai

My prediction:

Trump sticks to his guns and there is a shutdown.
The usual wailing and gnashing of teeth ensues.
RINOs join the Dems in passing a budget without the wall.
Trump vetoes.
RINOs join Dems in overriding Trump’s veto.
The GOP essentially collapses after that.
Trump runs for re-election as head of the new MAGA Party.


57 posted on 12/14/2018 5:56:32 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: upchuck

Usually the first few words can return a pertinent match. And I usually double up by using an external search engine, but the other thread didn’t show up.


58 posted on 12/14/2018 6:26:46 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Collaborators, more like. I was convinced of that after reading Goldwater’s book The Conscience of a Conservative and its detailed descriptions of how the RINOs of back then were mirroring the Dems’ embrace of godless authoritarian socialism.
59 posted on 12/14/2018 6:33:11 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

And Trump loses re-election in 2020 if he runs on something other then the GOP banner!

Why do I say that? Ok consider the two possibilities.

1. Do it like Ross Perot. Use his money to leverage his way on the ballot as an ‘ad hoc” 3rd party I remind you Ross Perot lost. The best Ross Perot could have done was throw it into the House. He would not have won that. Both parties will fight to keep Trump off the ballot, the GOP because of the threat to “their candidate”, the Rats to impede the establishment of that act for the day when it might hurt them. (but they won’t fight as hard as the GOP for obvious reasons!)

2. This is not 1856! It is much harder for a mainstream political party to collapse and go away like the Whigs did. Either by accident or purposeful design the mainstream parties have embedded themselves in state election laws through the country. These private organizations called “mainstream (GOP & Ra)t political parties” have over time gotten themselves quasi-governmental status. In many states (maybe all!) state funds (state tax dollars) pay for the primary elections Why? Rat & GOP have quasi-state institution status now. That will be hard to change! Yes 3rd parties are on the ballot. However the mainstream parties see that they are their treated as jokes. The mainstream parties will ensure they stay that way,

Back to (1) the Perot approach. The Rats are far more monolithic in their voting then the GOP. They have the “rent seeking” voting demographic 40%-47% (Romney number!) that are not going to change until something drastically changes the culture (That will take time!) The are going to vote Rat come “Hell or high water”, they in their minds have to maintain their “rent seeking” status quo for their own needs & livelihoods. Someone has already pointed out that that 40%-47% number automatically translates into 200-220 electoral votes!.

Now look at the GOP, subtract out the 40%-47% Rat votes, the GOP likely gets something like 40% to 47% also. The battle is over then final 20% to 6%. Probably the actual figure is 10%. Now run Trump as 3rd party, GOP vote splits, at least 10% probably closer to 20% stay establishment GOP. Now do the remaining math and see if it translates into a likely Trump victory. Again at best its in the House, and who has the House now? You could end up with a Rat Prez & Pence VPrez. You think there is chaos now! Think about it if that happens! You’re probably thinking Riley you idiot there is this vast sea of untapped voters out there that are too discouraged to vote. Yes they exist, but they didn’t turn out in number in 2016 like I thought they would, and they certainly didn’t in 2018. For now I think these voters are too discouraged, or disinterested to vote period and will be for some time. So Trump tapping this “vast sea” is too iffy in my mind.

So IMO Trump is better off capturing the GOP, drive the anti-Trumpers into irrelevant 3rd party status or to the Rat party. Its still going to be very hard. The “Wall (or something as nearly effective!) & shutdown” must be held firm if Trump wants a 2nd term. Anne Coulter is right about this one!.


60 posted on 12/14/2018 6:47:35 AM PST by Reily
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