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Sabotage? Has The Deep State Destroyed Trump's Chances Of A China Trade Deal?
Economic Collapse Blog ^ | 10DEC18 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 12/11/2018 4:26:40 AM PST by vannrox

Authored by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,

Somebody out there apparently does not want President Trump to make a trade deal with China.

Just after U.S. and Chinese officials agreed to suspend the implementation of new tariffs for 90 days, one of China’s most important tech executives was literally kidnapped as she was changing planes in Canada. Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou was simply on her way to Mexico, but at the urging of U.S. authorities the Canadians grabbed her and are refusing to let her go. Reportedly, the plan is to extradite her to the United States where she will apparently face charges relating to Huawei’s evasion of U.S. sanctions against Iran. When Trump was negotiating face to face with the Chinese, he was not aware that this was taking place. So now all of Trump’s hard work is out the window, and our relations with the Chinese are probably the worst that they have been since the Korean War.

If U.S. authorities wanted to punish Huawei, they should have just slapped a big fine on them and have been done with it.

The Chinese would have been annoyed, but not that much damage would have been done.

But kidnapping a high profile member of Chinese tech loyalty and throwing her in prison is something that the Chinese will not forgive.

The Chinese are a deeply nationalistic people, and the kidnapping of Meng Wanzhou is being treated as a grave national insult in China. If the goal of the Deep State was to really upset the Chinese, they picked a perfect target. The following comes from Robert Wenzel…

“This is a really big deal. Ms. Meng is by birth and position a member of China’s corporate royalty,” David Mulroney, a former Canadian ambassador to China, is quoted by TGM as having said.

According to TGM, Meng, 46, who also goes by the name Sabrina, was appointed CFO of Huawei in 2011 and is also one of four deputy chairs. She appears to be being groomed for the top job at Shenzhen-based Huawei, which is now the world’s second-largest maker of telecommunications equipment.

Just imagine how Americans would feel if China kidnapped a high profile member of our tech royalty and multiply that outrage by about 10.

Until Meng Wanzhou is let go, there is not going to be any deal with China. Many Americans are not familiar with Huawei, but they are essentially China’s version of Apple or Microsoft. The following originally comes from CNN…

Huawei is one of the world’s biggest makers of smartphones and networking equipment. It is at the heart of China’s ambitions to reduce its reliance on foreign technology and become an innovation powerhouse in its own right.

The country is pumping hundreds of billions into its “Made in China 2025” plan, which aims to make China a global leader in industries such as robotics, electric cars and computer chips. The introduction of 5G wireless technology, which hinges on Huawei, is a top priority.

Meng Wanzhou is not just the CFO of the company. She is also the daughter of the founder of the company and she is considered to be a hero by millions of Chinese.

So what in the world is the Deep State thinking? Are we going to start regularly kidnapping individuals that work for foreign corporations that have somehow violated U.S. laws?

And should Americans expect the same treatment? How would you like it if your mother or daughter was kidnapped while changing planes in a foreign country because the company that she works for had committed some sort of violation?

I don’t want to make it sound like Huawei is perfectly innocent, because they aren’t. But this is a move that is not just going to ensure a nightmarish trade war with China. Ultimately, things could get a whole lot worse than that.

At this point, the Chinese have summoned the U.S. ambassador and have formally demanded Meng Wanzhou’s release…

The Chinese foreign ministry on Sunday summoned U.S. Ambassador to China Terry Branstad to protest the detention of a senior tech executive by the Canadian authorities “at the unreasonable behest of the United States.”

Vice Foreign Minister Le Yucheng demanded the release of Meng Wanzhou, chief financial officer of Huawei Technologies, who is accused by U.S. officials of attempting to circumvent U.S. sanctions on Iran.

It would be wonderful if Meng Wanzhou was released, but it doesn’t look like that is going to happen.

So now our relationship with China is officially in the toilet, and this is one of the factors that could push stock prices much lower once again this week. In fact, as I write this article Dow futures are way down…

U.S. stock futures fell on Sunday night as traders feared an intensifying trade war between the United States and China.

Dow Jones Industrial Average futures dropped 197 points, implying a decline of 173.95 points at Monday’s open. S&P 500 and Nasdaq 100 futures also declined. The losses would add to a steep decline from last week.

This current “correction” was supposed to be over by the time December rolled around, but instead stock prices accelerated their decline last week.

And many of those that work in financial circles are starting to use language that is much more pessimistic than we have become accustomed to seeing. Here is just one example…

“We’re very mindful once again where we’re at in the cycle,” Gregory Carmichael, chief executive of the Cincinnati-based lender Fifth Third, said at a conference last week. “We’re well positioned to deal with the downturn in the economy, and we’ll be very cautious.”

I don’t know what “well positioned to deal with the downturn in the economy” means exactly, but it sounds nice.

It frustrates me that so few people seem to understand the gravity of the situation that we are facing. Our stores are filled with cheap products that come from China and they own more than a trillion dollars of our national debt. The two largest economies in the entire world are decoupling from one another, and if the Chinese conclude that they are not able to salvage the relationship then they will rapidly become an exceedingly dangerous enemy.

This is a major turning point, and the kidnapping of Meng Wanzhou has put us on a road that doesn’t lead anywhere good. Hopefully things can rapidly be fixed, because if not, events are likely to start escalating quite dramatically.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bolton; china; huawei; johnbolton; meng; navarro; peternavarro; tariff; trade; trump
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1 posted on 12/11/2018 4:26:40 AM PST by vannrox
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To: vannrox
"Has The Deep State Destroyed Trump's Chances Of A China Trade Deal?"

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The Deep State and the Democrat party are killing this nation.

Period.

2 posted on 12/11/2018 4:31:46 AM PST by a little elbow grease (Duct tape and cable ties have more worth than pussy hats and resistance.)
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To: vannrox

They need us otherwise they would do what Harry Truman would have done. Either Trump is messing with the Chicoms or the deep state is messing with Trump. Trump can say in the words of the Kenyan “cut it out.” Hasn’t happened. Is he scared of the deep state?


3 posted on 12/11/2018 4:34:09 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: vannrox

This is speculation, but it fits the evidence.

The company you list is deeply connected to the Clintons. The arrest of the CFO, more likely than not, is connected to the Clintons and the Clinton Foundation. This has nothing to do with the ‘Chinese trade deal’ and has everything to do with the Clintons, IMHO. The move was likely made because the ‘acting’ AG is pursuing the Clintons, Clinton foundation, and it’s Chinese connections.

This isn’t a move by the ‘deep state’, its a move by the AG and IG Huber, in a long running move to expose the Clintons and connections.


4 posted on 12/11/2018 4:46:04 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: Pete Dovgan

Interesting. I’m waiting for Trump to release the payoffs to congressmen’s mistresses. Kinda like the 900 FBI files Hillary acquired. The truth will set you free.


5 posted on 12/11/2018 4:54:50 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: vannrox
Nothing has been going right since John Bolton's been in there. Even worse than no deal on China trade is the regression in what he was hoping to achieve in Korea. Why are we still there? Let the Koreans figure it out. It's a win-win for them. SK gets more markets and a strong independent military. NK's current leaders get their place in history, finally ending the war and providing a better life for their people.

And we still haven't dumped Saudi Arabia, which GWB should've done after 911. Now they hold so much sway over our pols and our economy that saying goodbye will be painful.

My concern is that what is happening in France spreads through all of the other places that the Globalist Cartel controls.

6 posted on 12/11/2018 4:56:40 AM PST by grania ("You don't give power to an angry left wing mob")
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To: vannrox

Maybe we could send Tim Cook, Jack Dorsey, Mark Zuckerberg and a few others to China and have them arrested. That would teach us a lesson.


7 posted on 12/11/2018 4:59:42 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Trump shows no fear of the Deep State. However, he can leverage this “uncomfortable” circumstance by dangling the release of Huawei Chief Financial Officer Meng Wanzhou before the Chinese leader Xi Jinping as an added incentive to come to the table quickly, framing it as a “misunderstanding”, and extract a number of additional concessions.

Playing chess in multiple dimensions continues.


8 posted on 12/11/2018 5:03:41 AM PST by alloysteel (Man does not live by bread alone. He needs chocolate cake too.)
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To: grania

“My concern is that what is happening in France spreads”

Your concern is my hope. People refusing to cooperate with “business as usual” is the only thing I can see that will change the path we are on. Trump’s election, Brexit, and “what is happening in France” are all different ways that people are declining to go along with “business as usual”. Maybe I’m underestimating the disruption that will occur if we change direction and perhaps I shouldn’t be so optimistic, but it’s what I hope for nevertheless.


9 posted on 12/11/2018 5:09:06 AM PST by Stirner
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To: Pete Dovgan

I’ll go with what you said

I do not think the “deep state” currently has the wherewithall to do the deed.


10 posted on 12/11/2018 5:14:25 AM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Invade Honduras. Provide a military government)
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To: vannrox
Just imagine how Americans would feel if China kidnapped a high profile member of our tech royalty

Zuckerberg, Dorsey, Cook,... Hell you can have them. Half the Country would rejoice.
11 posted on 12/11/2018 5:19:36 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: vannrox

This is a really stupid premise. The reality is Xi will simply not deal. He will do the usual meaningless PR release about x tonnes of wheat, soybeans and Boeing aircraft purchased, and continue strong-arming US companies to surrender their intellectual property in return for access to the Chinese market. The right course is to continue raising tariffs on China until imports from that country drop to zero, i.e. no US imports are from China. Then it will be time to start requiring that products sold in the US have no Chinese material or labor content. What we need to inflict on China is the semi-embargo of the Cold War era.


12 posted on 12/11/2018 5:49:19 AM PST by Zhang Fei (They can have my pitbull when they pry his cold dead jaws off my ass.)
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To: bert

I’m inclined to agree. The Deep State has almost bottomless evil intent, but at the end of the day I don’t think they’re that smart.

Do guys like Comey, Brennan and Clapper impress you with how smart they are? They don’t impress me.


13 posted on 12/11/2018 5:53:59 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Stirner
Remember when the Republican establishment arrogantly told us "if we don't like it, nominate and elect someone else". In our Brave New World, in Europe and the US, we've learned something forsure these past few years. Election results aren't accepted by those who selfishly hold on to power, whatever it takes. Voting to get rid of the controlling force doesn't work. And now there's the situation of troops under the EU flag (ie: Germany) quelling riots in the streets of Paris.

Ahhhhh…..maybe I should calm down and go eat some cake.

14 posted on 12/11/2018 5:57:02 AM PST by grania ("You don't give power to an angry left wing mob")
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To: vannrox

How is it the deep state arrested her?

Someone explain that to me or is it to make PDJT look bad?

I had thought her arrest gives him leverage...am I wrong?


15 posted on 12/11/2018 5:59:03 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (PDJT, please re-teach the nation that crony capitalism is not capitalism!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
-—They don’t impress me.-—

As an amatuer lepodopitrist, I captured caterpillars. I would stick a pin in the back end to subdue them. They wriggle and squirm and do all sorts of actions to struggle free.

Comey, Brennan and Clapper are in the struggling phase.

16 posted on 12/11/2018 6:07:16 AM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Invade Honduras. Provide a military government)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Trouble is they impress themselves.

It’s hard to pinpoint which one is the most like Inspector Clouseau, without the charm.

They thought they were pretty smart, and yet, here they are, the subject of much derision and ridicule.


17 posted on 12/11/2018 6:23:31 AM PST by Maris Crane
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To: vannrox

In late January the Dow Jones index was 26,600 and is now 24,400. The Hang Seng was 33,100 and is now 25, 800.

China needs a fair deal more than Trump.


18 posted on 12/11/2018 6:24:39 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: vannrox
Just imagine how Americans would feel if China kidnapped a high profile member of our tech royalty and multiply that outrage by about 10.

If the Chinese arrested Mark Zuckerberg in a foreign country and brought him back to China to stand trial, I'd reimburse them for the cost of sending their police officers to get him.

19 posted on 12/11/2018 6:51:11 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: vannrox

Didn’t the PRCs just lower the US auto import tariff from 40 to 15%? Winning:-)


20 posted on 12/11/2018 7:03:07 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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